Hoor Al-Ayn – A Personal View
By Guest Writer, Aisha Faiz, aged 19, from New York.
In the name of Allah, the Most Beneficent, the Most Merciful.
I would like to unravel the idea of “hoor al ayn” to the best of my ability. A lot of sisters may be confused, or even hurt at the thought of it. To many people’s surprise, some brothers are a little disturbed at the thought of it too. First off, let us realize that we are all human beings—individuals. We are all diverse. We cannot generalize a whole species into one categorization, and the other into something else. Islam is a religion that applies to humans regardless of the time era—so I do not agree with people who say it is outdated and needs to be “reformed.” Is something perfect if it needs to be reformed, or tweaked? I think not. With that said, please be aware that Islam speaks for mankind as a whole, in a general sense. Of course, there are always exceptions.
Hoor al ayn are rewards for men. The idea of such women in Jannah is supposed to motivate the more lust-driven men to do well in this world. I know sisters are tired of hearing scholars say that “men are more sexual by nature.” Yes, women are sexual beings as well, which most scholars unfortunately tend to overlook, but some of them are less sexual than men. This is perhaps due to their monthly menstrual periods as well as pregnancy and childbirth—all of which cause hormonal changes and even lower libidos. Nevertheless, as I said before, there are ALWAYS exceptions. Islam speaks for most of the population.
I have been battling with the topic of hoors for about five years now. As you can imagine, it has been very problematic for me. I would not want to listen to the Qur’an because I knew that at one point, hoors would come up, in surahs such as Ar-Rahman. Even if it did not come up, since the word hoor appears only four times in the Qur’an (if I am not mistaken), I would still be reminded of it whenever I would hear about the rewards of Paradise. Everything seemed to trigger the idea. I felt worthless. I felt like I would never be good enough for a man. No matter what I did for him, he would still have anywhere between two to seventy-two other “beautiful” wives in Jannah.
I was always baffled at the responses I got from scholars. It has been five years, and out of all the questions I have submitted on numerous websites, the few answers I got were all similar: “You should focus on getting to Jannah first, and then worry about what is there.” Or that “humans will no longer feel jealous in Jannah, so women shouldn’t worry about that now.” What these scholars do not seem to understand is that I cannot pray, I cannot listen to Qur’an, and ultimately, I cannot connect with Allah subhanahu wa ta’ala if I have this topic stuck in my head!! After all, the scholars are men, perhaps of the kind who are looking forward to this reward in Jannah.
I have come to the conclusion that people should focus on the Qur’an, pray five times a day, give Zakah, fast during the month of Ramadan (and even more if they like), and try to make a pilgrimage to Hajj at least once in their lifetime. Do not keep this idea of hoors in your head. It will prevent you from fulfulling your duties as a Muslim woman. I know it is hard to overcome, but you can do it. Try not to look around for ahadith on hoor al ayn—it will only make you feel sad. Try to avoid those thoughts, and just follow the five basic pillars of Islam.
Think of it like this: Allah has created us all. He knows that some men are very sexually active. Allah has used the idea of hoors to create order in society. It is to encourage men to stay chaste in this world, with the hopes that they would then be rewarded in Paradise with whatever their hearts desire. If they did not have this to look forward to, some men would probably mistreat women all the time–then you and I would not be able to find a decent husband in this world!
Rest assured; Allah will reward you for all you do. After all, He says: “Anyone who acts rightly, male or female, being a believer, We will give them a good life and We will recompense them according to the best of what they did” (16:97).
“[The believers] will have whatever they wish for with their Lord. That is the great favor” (26:22).
“My devotees, you will feel no fear today; you will know no sorrow” (43:68).
Subhan’Allah! This should encourage us to stay on the right path, and not to let our insecure thoughts hinder us from attaining such a great status. In Jannah, you will have whatever you want. Does that mean nothing to you? Allah created men and women, so why would He discriminate against the latter? It is society that brainwashes us—that tells us that Islam is a misogynistic religion and that Paradise is only for men. If you create two works of art, let us say, two different vases, would you treat one with less care because it is designed differently? NO! You created both, and will make sure that both of them are placed somewhere high on a shelf so they do not crack or break. In the same way, Allah has no reason to treat women any differently. HE CREATED US. That is the biggest proof that He will not treat us any less than our male counterparts.
Besides, not all brothers are the same! If anything, you can have a talk with your spouse. See what he is like. Not all men are identical, just as not all women are the same. Realize that. I believe that if your husband does not wish to have other women in Jannah, he will not Insha’Allah. Since we have worked all our lives worshipping Allah (S.W.T.) Jannah is where we have things our way, with the permission and mercy of Allah (S.W.T.), of course. Relax, take a deep breath, and know that Jannah is a place of happiness. If anything, since Jannah is where your needs are catered to, Allah can create a special partner for you. Just because the rewards of women are not clearly mentioned in the Qur’an does not mean that they are exempt from it! If your husband tells you that he wants hoor al ayn, then learn to live with that. Look at the bright side of things. At least he is honest. At least it is motivating him to stay faithful to you in this world! If he did not have the prospect of hoors in Jannah, he would probably be more interested in cheating on you now. Be thankful, because this reward for men is what is motivating him to stay loyal to you. Subhan’Allah, indeed everything Allah has in store for us is there for a reason, and is full of wisdom. It may not seem clear to us, but there are always barakat—blessings—behind what He does, even if at the moment things may seem like the bane of our existence.
-Aisha Faiz
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March 27th, 2011 at 1:37 pm
Well done Aisha! I loved your article and was proud to put it up here.
April 24th, 2011 at 1:27 pm
Assalamu Alaikum,
I appreciate this article. My wife had some issues with this topic as well, and I am very happy to see an open minded sister who knows that not all men are alike. Everybody assumes that all men are one specific way. I am not like that, and always tell my wife I love her and want to be with her only. Jazak Allah for the article. I enjoyed reading it very much.
May 3rd, 2011 at 7:48 am
Assalamu Alaikum,
I am a guy and I am actually quite uncomfortable with the idea of doing ibadah just for the sake of pleasure of women in paradise. It makes me feel guilty and selfish. Although I do not deny my desires but I feel what I feel. I want worship Allah Ta’ala for his pleasure and my ultimate goal is that my Lord looks at me with love in his eyes. He hugs (figurative) me like a mother hugs her child.
I am a big fan of Bibi Rabia Basri (RA)’s teaching. She said O God! If I worship You for fear of Hell, burn me in Hell,
and if I worship You in hope of Paradise, exclude me from Paradise.
But if I worship You for Your Own sake,
grudge me not Your everlasting Beauty
May 4th, 2011 at 7:51 pm
Wa Alaikum Ussalam,
Khalil: that is great. I am more than happy to know that this article has been of value to you.
Shehbaz: Thank you for leaving a comment. I understand where you are coming from. I love her poetry. It captures the essence of Islam. I do not think one should worship Allah just for the sake of getting into heaven, or just so s/he does not burn in hell. It should be for the sake of Allah. For the sake of doing what’s right and pleasing your Lord. Here’s the full poem:
O Lord,
If tomorrow on Judgment Day
You send me to Hell,
I will tell such a secret
That Hell will race from me
Until it is a thousand years away.
O Lord,
Whatever share of this world
You could give to me,
Give it to Your enemies;
Whatever share of the next world
You want to give to me,
Give it to Your friends.
You are enough for me.
O Lord,
If I worship You
From fear of Hell, burn me in Hell.
O Lord,
If I worship You
From hope of Paradise, bar me from its gates.
But if I worship You for Yourself alone
Then grace me forever the splendor of Your Face.
May 14th, 2011 at 12:22 pm
Assalam O Alaikum sister,
It’s a good article but I would like to say that we should concentrate on what’s in hand. And to be honest this is not first time I have seen a sister concerned about “Hoor al ayn”. I know a sister, who was quite disturbed at the thought of her husband being in Jannah with “hoors” if he dies before her.
I would like to say that sister read, read and read because we have so many people with knowledge around us but still TRUTH is not clear and easy to find. I am a born Muslim myself and not long ago my concepts were not clear about very basic things in Islam and I WAS ONLY ABLE TO GET THINGS RIGHT BY “SELF STUDYING”. There are scholars out there who are supposed to pass the knowledge to other Muslims without any confusion but they are too busy fighting with each other on petty things. Here is a Hadith which clarifies that Muslim woman(wives) will be way more beautiful then “Hoor al Ayn” (only if they make it to Jannah).
Hazrat Umma Salma (R.A)asked Holy Prophet (PBUH);
Oh Prophet of Allah (PBUH); Who will be more beautiful in Jannah; A Muslim wife or a Hoor?
Holy Prophet (PBUH) replied; Oh Umma Salma! Muslim women will be made more beautiful in Jannah as compared to Hoors.
She asked why? (mean which deeds she should have to have this kind of reward).
Prophet (PBUH) replied;
” Because of their prayers, fasting, and worship; Allah (swt) will put his light (noor) on their faces”.
I hope this helped you and all other sisters who are concerned so, PLEASE REMEMBER IN YOUR PRAYERS PLEASE.
Again, do self-study, I wouldn’t know all this unless I would have studied myself.
Your brother in Islam, Kaleem Satti.
May 16th, 2011 at 1:00 am
well i think that this “hoor” problem is not that big.Firstly even the lowest woman of jannah will be many many times more beautifull then a “hoor ul ain”.and secondly only the muqarabeen will have “hoor ul ain”.IT will be a very great reward for a man to have a real woman as his spouse in jannah.
June 4th, 2011 at 6:56 pm
Kaleem Satti: I am aware brother, but this still bothers some women because it makes them wonder WHY the hoors would matter if the women of these dunya would be so much more beautiful than the hoor anyway. I agree with you, scholars are busy arguing over other things, but I think I have seen a few scholars point this out as well. It is just disturbing to some women to know that their husbands will have other wives. Men wouldn’t like the idea of their wives with other men, so this is just as disturbing to women as it would have been to a man (but many Muslims would kill me for saying this, lol).
@Muhammad Ali- Actually brother, any man who gets into jannah will have hoors for wives. It is nice to hear you say that it’s a great reward for men to have their worldly wives with them. Inshallah women (and men!!) will realize that not all men/women think the same way.
June 10th, 2011 at 3:10 pm
Assalam O Alaikum sister Aisha,
You see that problem is not new, it’s been there for ages and as far as the fact that women don’t still understand after the hadith (that I mentioned), then I am afraid there is nothing anyone can do. If you agree then that’s good for you because it will save you from unwanted headache. Remember sister, we are supposed to convey message whether someone act on it or not, is not our responsibility.
Also, what is made lawful by Allah, we are supposed to follow that. It’s not a matter of personal jealousy being a man/husband or woman/wife. I don’t want to go off-topic but it wouldn’t bother me a single bit if my wife wanted to be with someone in Jannah as there will be plenty of Hoors Insha Allah:) (also, nothing should stop you from saying the truth lols).
If you look at it logically sister then men in general are weak and tend to run after the facial/physical beauty/attraction whereas woman tend to go for good personality, moral values, manners, religion etc etc (Am I right here?)
Here you as a woman has advantage; How?
1- One you know that the man is weak (I know this gender war, man is better than woman and vice versa) and he is promised all this so that he treat his family with respect and protect and provide for them and remain loyal to his wife as being a husband.
2- If a man were to go to Jannah and his wife as well then, like I said men being weak go for beauty and a pious/practising woman who will make to Jannah will already be attractive and her husband will have no choice. So, she can choose to stay with him if he stay only with her and has been a good husband in worldly life.
I would like you to read this article and tell me what you think.
http://www.zawaj.com/askbilqis/can-a-man-reject-hoor-al-ayn/
Wasalam.
June 15th, 2011 at 9:45 pm
Wa alaikum as salaam,
I have read that before because a friend of mine asked that question. I am not saying that the truth should not be conveyed. I didn’t say anywhere in this article that NO this hoors idea is fake and made by the media, as some Muslims unknowingly, or perhaps even knowingly, suggest. I am just trying to make people understand it the way I have.
I understand what you are saying, but I can’t generalize by saying that all or most women go for the personality. You would be surprised, and that is why so many women have difficulty accepting this concept because they know they are attracted to good looking men too, but scholars always justify the idea of hoor al ayn with the excuse that men are weak. Women face temptation too. Take the story of Yusuf alayhi salam for instance. I am not questioning Islam or why there are hoors, I just think that by using “weakness” as an excuse, scholars are making matters worse than if they were to just say “Allahu Alam.”
Finally, for some reason, I do not believe that you would not mind if your wife was with other men while you were restricted to only her!
June 16th, 2011 at 7:20 am
Assalam O Alaikum sister Aisha,
First of all, I am not blaming you or any other sister for anything. If we turn the table around, most men are same. However, I still have to come across a Muslim woman who just married/chosen a brother for marriage merely on his personality or looks. Yes, some woman might have gone for it but then how they ended up is no secret and we see these kind of cases everyday (same as men end up following their desires). Off course no one can generalise, because women are same as men, some go for looks and attractiveness while others go for personality, character etc etc (majority I would say).
Sister, my theory “men are weak and that’s why they are promised with hoor al aynn in Jannah if they behave like Momin Muslims” is not put in my head by any scholar. Sorry, that’s not true sister and I still have to come across such scholar. Also, I don’t see woman as they are their for men, to please them in all sort of ways. They are also human beings with equal rights and feelings as well, exactly the same way as men and should be respected with their decision for what they want in their life.
Also, when I said that “I don’t have a problem to leave my wife if she has feelings for someone else” is at least true in my case. Since I am single so, before marriage; I will definitely ask that potential girl who is chosen by me or my family; if she has feelings for someone else? if she says YES then, I will respect that and try my best to help her if I could in limits set by Islam.
After marriage, I don’t know if that’s possible but if my wife developed feelings for someone else (which is haram but we are humans and if there were circumstances where things weren’t working between us or we weren’t compatible), then I will Insha Allah release her and let her go and to do whatever she wants to do. If children were involved then, I will keep the children or if she wanted to keep them then she can as far as I get to see my kids Insha Allah.
This is worldly solution if she choose to be with someone else in Jannah then I will even respect her decision and let her go BECAUSE there will be way better options for me too and I won’t waste my time:)
IF YOU STILL THINK THAT I WON’T LET MY WIFE GO THEN I WOULD SAY THAT “I don’t need a woman physically for me no matter how much I like/love her if she is not attracted to me mentally/spirtualy.”
It will be more like forcing someone to be with you when they don’t even connect with you. I hope you get the message sister.
Wasalam,
June 16th, 2011 at 8:29 am
Wa alaikum as salam,
I agree with you. If a man does not want to be with his wife, it is better for her to let him go than to be with him and have no connection. As for the scholars and people who discuss hoors, I’m sorry to disagree and say that yes, they do use temptation as an excuse. Take this for instance: “Men are more sexually active and therefore are facing a lot of difficulty (especially in the teenage years) to remain chaste. There are a lot of temptations in this world. That is why that Allah keeps promising these virgin girls to those that remain patient and steadfast. That way, this motivates the unmarried men to remain chaste and be patient because they know they have something better waiting for them in the next life. As if they do not get it legally in the next life then they would get it illegally in this life.”
July 25th, 2011 at 7:02 pm
ASA my dear sister in Islam,
I wish I had seen this article sooner. Islam is a beautiful religion, for men and women, and no matter how much people will taint this religion, you can be assured that all the proof you need is in the Quran and Sunnah for the TRUTH. There are no alien sex mates in heaven, for either men or women (as some scholars claim). This is repulsive that every ramadan some imam will bring up how muslims should strive to be good in this life so they can marry X number of virgin aliens in heaven. Hoor al-ayn descriptions in the Quran are of the people of this world who die and are recreated. People have falsely attributed hadith about the humans in Jannah (their physical attributes) to this alien race that was supposedly created for pleasure. There are hadith that describe the children of Adam in Jannah, not another species that resides in heaven. Allah says in the Qur’an that he created mates for us from among us! There are numerous hadith about women who are righteous and modest, and what their reward in Jannah will be. Yet, these same descriptions are given to the “virgins” in heaven, who are supposedly not of the human race. People have used weak and daif ahadeeth to make up a fantasy of an alien race created for sex in heaven. Here is the proof:
Here are verses in the Qur’an that refer to one’s spouse recreated in the hereafter, and they are the Hur Al-Ayn:
“And [with them will be their] spouses, raised high: for, behold, We shall have brought them into being in a life renewed, having resurrected them as virgins [Chapter (Surah) Al-Waqi'a (The Event)(56):34-36]
And among His wonders is this: He creates for you mates out of your own kind [min anfusikum azwajan, Lit. “from among yourselves mates (spouses, one of the pair)”] so that you might incline towards them, and He engenders love and tenderness between you: in this, behold, there are messages indeed for people who think! … And He it is who creates [all life] in the first instance, and then brings it forth anew: and most easy is this for Him, since His is the essence of all that is most sublime in the heavens and on earth, and He alone is almighty, truly wise. [Chapter (Surah) Ar-Rum (The Romans)(30):21...27]
Here are the Ayahs mentioning Hoor Al-Ayn:
“Thus shall it be. And We shall pair them with companions pure, most beautiful of eye.”[Chapter (Surah) Ad-Dukhan (The Smoke)(44):54]->(the word used is zawajnahoom: pair them, marry them. Note that zawj (lit., “a pair” or – according to the context – “one of a pair”) applies to either of the two sexes,a man to a woman and a woman to a man, as does the transitive verb zawaja, “he paired” or “joined”, i.e., one person with another.
“In these [gardens] will be mates of modest gaze [qasirat at-tarf: Lit., “such as restrain their gaze”, This phrase applies to both genders], whom neither man nor invisible being will have touched ere then.” [Chapter (Surah) Ar-Rahman (The Most Beneficent(55):56]
“[There the blest will live with their] companions pure and modest, in pavilions [splendid] [Chapter (Surah) Ar-Rahman (The Most Beneficent)(55):72]
“reclining on couches [of happiness] ranged in rows!” And [in that paradise] We shall mate them with companions pure, most beautiful of eye [Chapter (Surah) At-Tur (The Mount)(52):20]
A verse regarding the only other companionship in Jannah:
“And, O our Sustainer, bring them into the gardens of perpetual bliss which Thou hast promised them, together with the righteous from among their forebears, and their spouses, and their offspring – for, verily, Thou alone art almighty, truly wise [Chapter (Surah) Ghafir (The Forgiver)(40):8]
Abu Ubayda said that they are the recreated women of this life referring to
“We have created [their Companions] of special creation, and made them virgin-pure [and undefiled after their old age in this life] (Qur’an, Surah Al-Waqia(56):35-36)
were mentioned in the previous verse:
“And Hur with wide lovely eyes. Like preserved pearls.”(Qur’an, Surah Al-Waqia(56):22)
quoted by Ibn Kathir in his Tafsir (Qur’anic Commentary) of Surah Waqia (56), ayah (verse) 35-36
“Damrah bin Habib was asked if the Jinns will enter Paradise and he said,`Yes, and they will get married. The Jinns will have Jinn women and the humans will have female humans. ‘ ”
quoted by Ibn Kathir in his Tafsir (Qur’anic Commentary) of Surah Rahman (55), ayah (verse) 56:
“In these [gardens - paradise] will be mates of modest gaze, whom neither man nor invisible being [Jinn] will have touched them then [after they have been created again].”
Al-Hasan Al-Basri said that the word houri implies the righteous women among mankind who are rewarded with paradise as related in the Tafsir of Tabari quoted by Muhammad Asad in his tafsir “Message of Quran”
Ibn Kathir says that the houri “in the other life, after they became old in this life, they were brought back while virgin, youthful, being delightfully passionate with their husbands, beautiful, kind and cheerful.”
People will quote many ahadith that have a weak chain of narration, are unreliable, or are just completely fabricated, and they will use this to justify a fairy tale about a special race of wide-eyed aliens. Many people have used those hadith to misinterepret Qur’anic ayahs. We have proof from the Qur’an and authentic hadith about descriptions of the inhabitants of paradise, and from past great scholars about the reality of the Hoor Al-Ayn. The word ‘Hur’ is the plural of both Ahwar (Masculine) and Hawra (Feminine) which literally translates as “white-eyed”, or persons distinguished by Hawar, signifying “intense whiteness of the eyeballs and lustrous black of the pupils.” Thus, it seems that the most appropriate English rendering of the compound word Hur’In might be: “Companions pure, most beautiful of eye.” and it is applicable to both male and female. Remember, the disciples of ‘Isa (PBUH) were called by this name.
I urge all muslims, men and women, to learn the proper Arabic language so you can understand this beautiful religion for yourself, and not be told what to believe by others who wish to mislead you.
July 26th, 2011 at 11:22 am
Wa alaikum as salaam Sister StudentDrMom,
I hope you have subscribed to the comments so that you will be notified of this response. As much as I would love to believe that, I would appreciate it from the bottom of my (extremely confused) heart if you would be able to explain the Sahih Ahadith that are found in books such as Bukhari/Tirmidhi regarding these hoors. I wish that is not true, because my view of Islam has altered a bit, but I do not understand how everyone, including all the scholars, could have misinterpreted the Quranic verses to be referring to hoors when in reality it is our own spouses.. Also, in the Quran it says, “We shall WED them to hoors” (44:54). If my husband and I have married in this world, does that mean we will be remarried in the next world for eternity, or does “wed” rather suggest that the men will be marrying those seventy two or whatever number of virgins?
I am eagerly awaiting your response as I don’t wish to argue and have nothing to benefit from the existence of hoors!! I am merely trying to seek the truth. Jazak Allah.
July 26th, 2011 at 11:53 am
I’m sorry my earlier post was hard to follow. To clarify my earlier post, the problem with the whole concept of Hoor Al-Ayn is that Allah says, in the Qur’an, that our spouses (both male and female) will be recreated in heaven as Hoor Al-Ayn (Pure, bright-eyed companions). This is simply and purely a description of the Muslims (male and female) of this world who die and are recreated in Jannah. The misunderstanding comes when some scholars say that the Hoor Al-Ayn are not us recreated, but a completely different species altogether. Aliens, if you will. They say that we will be married to them in addition to our human spouses. This is obviously wrong, as we know that Allah made our spouses from among us. And we have direct proof in the Qur’an that the Pure, Bright-Eyed spouses we have in Jannah are humans who have been recreated. All of this is said as clear as day in the Qur’an.
Now let’s look at the ahadith on the issue.
This first one is from Bukhari, the second from Muslim, both of which have been translated two different ways by scholars. Allah will pair all the muslims in heaven with a spouse (a pair of husband and wife-zawjataan), but some have translated the ahadith as one person having two spouses. If you understand the Arabic grammar, then there should be no confusion on the proper translation.
Sahih Bukhari
“[E]veryone will have two spouses ([in a version of this hadith: waa li kul-li wa ahidin minhoom zawjataani = and to every single (everyone) among them zawjataani. The expression kulli wa hadin-each one (everyone) includes both males and females. [zawjatan: dual connotation (Classical Arabic Idiom - which can be used to refer to two different things calling them by the same name: two paired persons or things can be expressed by the dual of one of them (e.g. abawaani [dual of aba (father)] = parents (father and mother, not “two fathers”; qamarani [dual of qamar (moon)] = sun and moon (not “two moons”); usage in “Qur’an in Surah Al-Furqan(25):53″ bahrayn [dual of bahr (sea)] = sea “salty and bitter” and river “sweet and thirst-allaying” (not “two seas”); sometimes the word with the female gender is chosen to make the dual form, such as in the expression “the two Marwas”, referring to the two hills of As-Safa and Al-Marwa (not “two hills, each called Al-Marwa”) in Mecca;) ( (i.e. Husband – zawj and wife -zawjah can be referred as zawjatan in the dual form)] from the hour al-ayn, the marrow of the bones of their legs will be seen through the bones and the flesh.” (Sahih Bukhari, Book 54 “The Beginning of Creation”, Hadith 476))
Sahih Muslim
Muhammad (Ibn Sirin) reported that some (persons) stated with a sense of pride and some discussed whether there would be more men in Paradise or more women. It was upon this that Abu Huraira reported that Abu’l Qasim said: The (members) of the first group to get into Paradise would have their faces as bright as full moon during the night, and the next to this group would have their faces as bright as the shining stars in the sky, and everyone will have two wives (or Husband – zawj and wife -zawjah can be referred as zawjatan in the dual form) and the marrow of their shanks would glimmer beneath the flesh and there would be none without a wife in Paradise. (Sahih Muslim, Book 40 “Pertaining to Paradise, Its Description”, Hadith 6793)
The rest of the ahadith from Tirmidhi, Ibn Majah, and other books are either weak Hadith that have no Sanad or are extremely untrustworthy and go against the Quran. These are the ones that talk about every muslim receiving 72 virgins in heaven.
Look, bottom line is that Muslims need to wake up and stop creating fitnah in this beautiful religion. Jannah is a reward for muslim men and women, and Allah will pair every Muslim with a human spouse in Jannah. As everyone in this life is recreated as Pure, bright-eyed (Hoor Al-Ayn) virgins in Jannah, your spouse in Jannah is a Hoor Al-Ayn, as you will be yourself.
We need to be clear when telling non-muslims about what our paradise is like. I have seen many people slamming Islam, saying that our paradise has prostitutes, gay sex, and wine. The Hoor Al-Ayn are not heavenly alien sex creatures created for our pleasure, but they are a beautiful description of US, recreated in the Afterlife. Everything haram here is not going to allowed in Jannah! No marrying a sibling, or homosexuality, or promiscuity. If your spouse goes to Hellfire, then you will be married to another inhabitant of Jannah, a Hoor Al-Ayn, a recreated human being. Don’t worry, ladies, you will keep your husband for all eternity, he’s not going to be married to another stranger, as long as neither one of you go to Hellfire, that is. And the wine? The Qur’an uses the word khamr for a river that flows in Jannah, but says that it does not intoxicate… what is khamr that doesn’t intoxicate? Like the flowing river of milk that doesn’t spoil, what is khamr that sits out and does not spoil? Fruit juice, of course. No bacteria or yeast to make wine or beer. As muslims, we need to clarify that the rivers of wine are non-intoxicating, as the Qur’an states. Wine that was never spoilt… there is no intoxicating substance in heaven. That is an evil of this world, and Shaytaan will not be in Jannah to tempt anyone. There are no drugs, no cigarettes, no pork, no evils there. Some scholars falsely claim that you can have whatever your heart desires. Well, I guess that’s true, because your heart will no longer desire the haram things of this world. Women will still be wearing hijab in heaven, they will not be walking the streets half-naked. No one will be lusting after anyone who isn’t their spouse. Everyone will be pious, and loyal, and beautiful, and perfect. This is our Jannah, far better than the harp-toting cherubs who will serenade the wine-drinking inhabitants of the Christian heaven.
There is no hypocrisy in Islam, like there is in all other religions. Let’s clear this misconception for us and the non-muslims once and for all, and not allow the whispers of Shaytaan to shape our religion. Now that you have been armed with the truth, when non-muslims slam our religion regarding our “dirty” paradise, tell them the truth. Do your own research, learn the arabic language for yourself, arm yourself with Islamic knowledge, and provide an intelligent rebuttal to those who think that every worldly evil will be in a Muslim’s paradise.
July 26th, 2011 at 12:10 pm
I still do not understand the hadith about everyone having two wives, as you said a husband and a wife? Anyway sister, if my husband goes to hellfire,he will eventually come out so long as he has had faith in Allah. Therefore, if I am married to another inhabitant of jannah, then that man’s wife will be sharing her husband with me! Again, we won’t have what you’re suggesting (and what I wish to believe). Maybe I can wait for him, lol.. Let’s just pray we get there. The ahadith are very confusing to me. Thanks for your time
July 26th, 2011 at 12:33 pm
Also dear sis, this hadith suggests that hoors are already in jannah. Maybe the hadiths are wrong, only Allah knows, but it seems odd for the ahadith to make us want to compete with women who are not even here. Also, perhaps this serves to scare women from upsetting their husbands lol. Here is the hadith:
Ahmad and Tirmidhi reported with a saheeh isnaad from Mu’aadh that the Messenger of Allah said: ‘ No woman in this world upsets her husband but his wife from among al Hoor al ayn says in Paradise: ‘Do not upset him, may Allah kill you! For he is with you only temporarily, and soon he will leave you and come to us.’ [Ibid, 6/125, hadith no. 7069]
July 26th, 2011 at 3:38 pm
ASA my dear sister,
That hadith is so weak, it should never be mentioned again. May Allah kill you?! Any hadith that contradicts the Quran is immediately discredited, and that is one of the worst ones that I have seen.
Please read my two posts again. Very slowly. If you have never learned arabic grammar, it is indeed very confusing. But Alhamdulilah, this religion is wonderful because unlike Christianity and Judaism, the imams and scholars cannot tell us what to believe. There is no hierarchy of knowledge like there is in Catholicism. You have to learn everything for yourself. And if you read my first post, you see that I indeed quote the Sahaba and great scholars, like Ibn Kathir. Again, you have to follow the Qur’an, and hadith that are sahih, authentic. Anyone can find terrible, fabricated hadith.
You think some fabricated hadith aren’t popular among muslims? Here’s a short list of hadith that have been discredited:
Regarding women, in a fabricated version of the Last Sermon:
Allah permits you to shut them in separate rooms and to beat them, but not severely. If they abstain from [evil], they have the right to their food and clothing in accordance with the custom. Treat women well, for they are [like] domestic animals with you and do not possess anything for themselves.
Some more hadith classified as fabricated:
The ink of the scholar is more holy than the blood of the Martyr.
Seek knowledge, even if you have to go to China.
The One who knows himself, knows his Lord.
Do these sound familiar?
I understand that what I have said may have shattered many people’s belief system, and now people will actually have to check the validity of every single hadith they come across, and read the arabic text, instead of being spoon-fed the translations and meanings of ayahs and hadiths. This doesn’t just stop here. Start learning the arabic language, and you will see how some translations into english are just so wrong, they are outright criminal.
Look at all sources of any hadith you come across. Is it in Sahih Bukhari? Sahih Muslim? Is it corroborated in any other book, or is it found in only one hadith book? Does it contradict the Qur’an?
Here’s some info on the writers of some of the lesser used books: Ibn Maja (824 – 887) was a medieval hadith collector, not all authentic.
Al-Tirmidhi (824 – 892) was a medieval collector of hadiths, some deemed controversial and unreliable.
Go look up all of the ahadith that you can find about “Hoor Al-Ayn”. Most of them are Da’if or fabricated. Look at what I say about the ahadith in Sahih Bukhari and Sahih Muslim, read it a couple of times.
There are many descriptions of “heavenly virgins” in numerous books that were written by people. Yes, they are neither from Qur’an not Hadith, they are actually made up by people. People who call themselves scholars.
Moral of the story: you have to fact-check everything. That goes for any hadith, or anyone’s interpretation of Qur’anic ayahs. In the end, Allah will judge you based on what you did, and ignorance is not an excuse.
Here is a good website to go to: http://www.allaahuakbar.net/ahaadeeth/weak_fabricated_and_baatil_ahaadeeth.htm
“An-Nawawee clearly states that the one who does not know whether Ahaadeeth is weak or not then it is not permissible for him to use it as a proof without researching and checking it if he knows how…”
July 26th, 2011 at 4:11 pm
These descriptions are hilarious. Transparent women whose bone marrow is visible through skin? Ummm… I’ve only seen that on radiographic X-Rays and CT Scans. We need to purge those who believe in alien sex beings from our religion. The greatest threat to Islam is from within, from Muslims who wish to corrupt our books. There are ahadith that say that men should beat their spouses regularly. Excuse me?! I found that wonderful hadith that you quoted. And it is absolutely fabricated, sister. Read on:
In Tirmidhi:
Al-Hasan Al-Basri says that an old woman came to the messenger of Allah and made a request, O’ Messenger of Allah make Dua that Allah grants me entrance into Jannah. The messenger of Allah replied, O’ Mother, an old woman cannot enter Jannah. That woman started crying and began to leave. The messenger of Allah said, Say to the woman that one will not enter in a state of old age, but Allah will make all the women of Jannah young virgins. Allah Ta’aala says, Lo! We have created them a (new) creation and made them virgins, lovers, equal in age. (Surah Waaqi’ah, 35-37).
“Muhammad was heard say: “The smallest reward for the people of Heaven is an abode where there are eighty thousand servants and seventy two wives, over which stands a dome decorated with pearls, aquamarine and ruby, as wide as the distance from [Damascus] to San’a”.(This hadith has a weak chain of narrators)
Please NOTE that: This Hadith considered as Gharib (weak Hadith that has no Sanad )
“A houri is a most beautiful young woman with a transparent body. The marrow of her bones is visible like the interior lines of pearls and rubies. She looks like red wine in a white glass. She is of white color, and free from the routine physical disabilities of an ordinary woman such as menstruation, menopause, urinal and offal discharge, child bearing and the related pollution. A houri is a girl of tender age, having large breasts which are round (pointed), and not inclined to dangle. Houris dwell in palaces of splendid surroundings.”
Ibn Maja:
“Houris do not want wives to annoy their husbands, since the houris will also be the wives of the husbands in the afterlife. “Mu’adh bin Jobal (Allah be pleased with him) reported that Allah’s Messenger (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him) said, ‘A woman does not annoy her husband but his spouse from amongst the maidens with wide eyes intensely white and deeply black will say: Do not annoy him, may Allah ruin you.” He is with you as a passing guest. Very soon, he will part with you and come to us.”
This Hadith is extremely untrustworthy and goes against the Quran (see verse on 1st section) so it would be known as a Da’eef hadith, not to be trusted or accepted.
July 26th, 2011 at 10:59 pm
Assalamu Alaikum sister,
May Allah S.W.T. reward you for the time you have taken out to respond. So basically, you believe that Sahih Muslim and Bukhari are most reliable? I thought there were six authentid/most reliable hadith books, which includes Tirmidhi? I am going to sleep now, but will check Sahih Bukhari and Sahih Muslim tomorrow inshallah to see if there are any ahadith regarding these hoor al ayn. Despite having written this article, I am still not fully over this topic because everyone emphasizes that Islam is the religion of “modesty” amd “moderation,” yet this doesn’t quite fit the bill. Regardless, I appreciate your efforts and time. I look forward to hearing from you inshallah.
July 26th, 2011 at 11:06 pm
Forgive me dear sis, you’ve already mentioned that some ahadith in Tirmidhi are authentic, and some are not. Basically whatever goes against the Quran is wrong. Sorry. It is late in New York so my thoughts are a bit jumbled up! The last hadith you mentioned, does it have a weak chain of narrators or do you conclude that it is weak because it goes against the first hadith which refers to the Quranic verse that clarifies that hoors are none other than worldly women?
July 31st, 2011 at 11:24 pm
Dear sister Aisha,
I am one of the men you speak of in the beginning of your article. I mean, one of those men who care very little about um… you-know-what, and would rather confine themselves to the one they love. Forever. Even in the hereafter. To answer the question that might pop up in anyone’s head, yes, I’m in love. And it was surely from Allah Ta’la who put this love into my heart, for it drove most sins from me. I started praying, five Islamic years ago tomorrow, and even making up for lost prayers. And, no, she is not, to use the common term, “with me”. I pray that she will be, someday. Legally.
August 10th, 2011 at 9:29 am
http://www.free-minds.org/hur
August 10th, 2011 at 4:47 pm
Interesting article. I will look into this. I wish I knew Arabic!! Regardless, this is from a reformist Islamic site.. I will contact the author of this article.
August 11th, 2011 at 9:46 am
Thankyou
And please guide me to on what conclusion you reach. Also, I would like to know if you researched on the hadtith? I am very very upset regarding this topic. Let me know anytime when you find something.
Jazak Allah.
August 11th, 2011 at 7:25 pm
You’re very welcome. I contacted him but he has not replied yet :/
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I asked him if the hadiths should not be accepted, then how would we know how to pray? So I do think that some hadiths ARE authentic and should be accepted. However, I don’t seem to like the hadith that provide very weird details about hoor. For some reason, I can’t believe that Muhammad s.a.w. would speak like that, with such graphic details. Idk. Either way, I will post things on this site if I find anything inshallah. Free Minds is affiliated with The Monotheist Group, I believe, as that group is mentioned on the site. TMG has created its reformist Quran.. However, that Quran still regards hoors as companions untouched by men/jinns so I will have to ask the author of that article about what’s really going on with them since I am confused. He says there are no companions waiting, yet TMG Quran mentions them.. Lol, either way, nobody knows the truth. I’d say just focus on doing what is right for now. Inshallah the truth will come out. Either way sis, view it like this. If I have a man who loves me to death, he won’t want them and end of story, hoors don’t relate to us. However, if my man likes other women, has a wandering eye, etc, then let’s say there wasn’t this concept/myth/reality (?) of hoor, then since Jannah is whatever we want, he could probably wish for lots of women and still have them!! Do you get me? It really depends on the man, so let us pray for righteous and loyal husbands inshallah. But I will keep you posted
August 11th, 2011 at 7:26 pm
Idk why that smiley is in the middle of the text… Lol sorry.
August 12th, 2011 at 9:25 am
Yes I do get your point and what you are trying to explain. The thing is, even if a man was loyal to his wife and loved her only, I guess he would still be given those hoors. He wouldn’t mind as he would still be with his wife. And plus I don’t think there would be a choice for him? Like there are many other rewards mentioned, so they wouldn’t be option right? You would still be given them. This really saddens me. How can you give a spouse as a reward? I mean, Allah created Adam and Eve ad no partner with them right?
And no hadith says that a man can have one wife only.
Plus Surah Saffat does say that there will be maidens restraining their glances of equal age.
So that is gender specification? Or does that mean us too?
God, am sooo confused.
All I know is, love is between 2 people. Not 72 people
August 12th, 2011 at 9:42 am
http://www.scribd.com/doc/14855166/Al-Hur-Al-Ayn-Full-Description-Yaa-Rubb-grant-me-Jannah-Ameen
August 12th, 2011 at 10:31 am
I understand you. But Jannah is what a person wants it to be. Other stuff like what you wear or drink, I guess those were a commodity at the time so people would love to have it in Jannah. I love soda, do you think that because it’s not in a hadith that I won’t be able to drink pepsi? If that’s what I like, and I am a good Muslim and die loving pepsi, then inshallah I will be able to drink it. Lol, funny example but it works. Just like that, if a guy wants his wife only, I don’t think Allah will force it upon him. You know how islam gives men the right to marry up to four wives? It is their RIGHT, but they are not forced to do so. That’s how I view hoor. Allah is closer to us than our jugular vein, as He says, so He is well aware of what each of us wants. If a man dies knowing in his heart that he does not want them, his wish will be fulfilled inshallah because jannah is a reward for all the good he used to do.
This is the definition of reward: “something given or received in return or recompense for service, merit, hardship, etc.” You are not forced to accept a reward. Besides, it is only given to you to PLEASE you for having pleased the person who is rewarding you. So tell me, why would Allah force someone or displease him if the only reason Allah is giving him the hoor is to make him happy for having done good deeds? Point is, if he doesn’t want them, he won’t get them. It is as simple as that. I think that hoor would apply more to men like this one:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1358654/The-worlds-biggest-family-Ziona-Chan-39-wives-94-children-33-grandchildren.html
Lol. I hope I’ve helped a bit inshAllah :/
August 12th, 2011 at 10:31 am
Maybe you cany copy amd paste the link to your address bar as it does not work for me. I’m not sure if it will for anyone else.
August 12th, 2011 at 10:33 am
Sorry for forgetting, but as for maidens restraining their glances, everyone says it is hoor al ayn but I thought it referred to the people of this world and how they will be purified in Jannah and we will all be recreated as young–men and women. I don’t know to be honest.
August 13th, 2011 at 4:14 am
Salam and ramadan Mubarak Sister Aisha,
you have no idea that how happy I am seeing you that you leave this argument at this point sister. Believe me sister, I was so disappointed and worried at the same time when you said in one of your comments that Allah (swt) is not fair or something similar. That was the reason I didn’t want to pursue the argument. My dear sister, I told you before that we should all concentrate on the opportunities we are given to make it to jannah before and leave these issues to Allah (swt). DO YOU SERIOUSLY THINK SISTER THAT ALLAH (SWT) WON’T DO JUSTICE AND DISCRIMINATE BETWEEN MEN AND WOMEN. And let me make this clear to you that a lot of Muslim women (yes quite knowledged in Islam) mix RELIGION with CULTURAL PRACTICES. My dear sister this is the kind of debate feminists are having. Should I start to count how me as a Muslim man feel like women are at an advantage in Islam. For instance; I AM A SON FIRST SO LET ME EXPLAIN;
There is a hadith (sorry I can’t remember exactly) where Holy Prophet (PBUH) said that if a man has two daughters; he provides for them; educates them and get them married then he will be close to Holy Prophet (PBUH) like two fingers of the same hand. IT DOES NOT MENTION ANYTHING ABOUT BOYS/SONS; should I say that it’s unfair or Allah or religion is biased toward Muslim men?
SECONDLY AS A HUSBAND;
Men have more to loose then women. how?
1- Mother has 3 times more right on children than father.
2- Jannah is under the mothers’ feet who was a daughter, sister wife first.
3- Look at the inheritance rights; I am supposed to support my wife even if she is a queen; and she can take from my inheritance but on the other hand I am not allowed to (unless she stats in her will) to take anything from her salary; will.
I could go on and on sister and I know that you have counter-argument as well but sister point is that if you go from feminist point of view then I can only pray for our Ummah who has been surviving so far directly or in-directly due to the sacrifices made by women JUST KNOWING THAT WHAT ALLAH DOES IS FOR THE BEST AND THERE ARE THINGS WHICH ARE BEYOND OUR UNDERSTANDING AS BEING HUMANS.
Please look after yourself; I am really proud of you and I can see and strong independent woman in you my sister as a sister, daughter, wife and mother. We don’t share anything; no blood relation, never met; never saw but still we share a bond of brother and sister as being Muslims.
Wasalam, Ramadan Mubarak:)
Your bro,
KS.
August 13th, 2011 at 8:37 am
Wa Alaikum Ussalam brother Kaleem,
I understand that everything you said was for my own benefit. I just realized that if I can’t change the truth, why should I bother myself with it? Besides, for some reason those explicit hadith do not seem Islamic to me… Especially when we claim that Islam is the religion of modesty. If I don’t know the truth, and only Allah does, there is no use in me thinking about it or harming my iman. There’s also the fact that if my future husband wants other women, I can’t change that. I think it really depends on the man as he will also have his wishes.. So if he wants them, that’s that, and if he doesn’t, then he doesn’t. Jazak Allah Khair for keeping an eye on this article and writing nice comments.
August 13th, 2011 at 9:40 am
I understood it now. Thanks alot for that.
I was soo worried but now I feel much better. Let’s hope what we’re thinking is right and hoors are not for all men.
Furthermore, a hadith says that du’a can change your destiny too. So let’s pray and hope.
Jazak Allah
August 13th, 2011 at 10:34 am
I’m pleased to know that I could help. You’re welcome. Just pray for the right man inshallah.
August 13th, 2011 at 1:01 pm
I have been monitoring this article and I’m so glad there are some people who feel the same way that I do over this touchy subject.
Jannah is a place of no negative feelings so of course we wouldn’t be unhappy but it doesn’t excuse the fact that our husbands have Hoor Al Ayn. I would *theoretically* still be hurt by it..and Allah knows this. So I don’t think it would be obligatory for men to have them.
I’m sick of hearing the argument that men are visual. This isn’t the case with all men and if He willed, Allah could stop that in a second. I did see a question on the Islamqa website about a man who was hurt by the topic hoor al ayn and I was shocked at the response he got.
InshaAllah Allah will bless us with modest, loyal husbands. I’m sure if we only desire them in Jannah and they only desire us, it will only be the two of us. Allah would never enforce upon his servant a reward that they wholeheartedly did not want.
August 13th, 2011 at 4:09 pm
Sister Nadia,
Don’t worry. I know how you feel. I read that fatwa. The scholar said he would want hoor when he is in jannah and that he is basically out of his mind for saying he won’t want them! Something to that effect, I can’t find it now. Sheesh, do you really believe that!? The scholar is just saying things from his point of view. He must really want those hoors. They even write these articles on how to gain more hoor!! Seriously?! Lol if we’re goinv to be satisfied in jannah, why are they so obsessed with it? I guess it is just those men who want them. As for the visual thing, I completely feel you. Come on, I’m visual too. I don’t like dirty things and I wouldn’t be able to marry a man who doesn’t take care of his hygiene and the way he looks. I agree with you all the way, and am 100% sure of your last sentence.
August 13th, 2011 at 4:10 pm
The scholar said that the man asking the question would want hoor and is somehow abnormal for not wanting them.**
August 13th, 2011 at 5:38 pm
You might want to read this. There’s a link to the fatwa too
http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index;_ylt=AtGFriwEDsjUevwBpO6ERDXsy6IX;_ylv=3?qid=20110613134549AALVXbO
The greatest pleasure in paradise is meeting Allah. In my experience if you ask a guy what he looks forward to most, his answer is nearly always hoor al ayn. It’s quite sad in a way.
I don’t think it’s wrong for me to say love should be between 2 people. And a marriage should be based on love not lust. If Allah awarded hoor al ayn to women, I would have to reject them..I could only ever love my husband and I couldn’t even think about being with someone else. It would HURT me to have someone else as well. Unfortunately many men do not share this opinion.
With regards to it being fruit not hoor all ayn..I find that too good to be true..the way it is described in the Qur’an, it cannot be fruit. I watched a lecture by Yasir Qadhi also talking about this.
It’s heart warming to know that there are men who want only their wife though, as I’ve read here and elsewhere on the web. Now I just got to find my one in a million. InshaAllah
August 13th, 2011 at 6:35 pm
Forget the people who left the comments. Lol they obviously like the idea. One person said that the person asking the question is unaware of the blessings.. What an assumption. Maybe the guy knows but still doesn’t want them? Besides, if the wives of this world are superior to hoor anyway, why are these people saying that the man is stupid for wanting to reject something as amazzingggg as hoor? Lol. Don’t let it bug you. I personally don’t like Yasir Qadhi too much fpr some reason which I still don’t know… I’ve seen that episode/speech of his on Peace TV before but regardless, Allahu Alam.
August 13th, 2011 at 6:38 pm
Listen to “For the Rest of My Life” by Maher Zain, if you listen to music.
August 13th, 2011 at 9:34 pm
Salaam
I dont have a vast knowledge of Islam, but from what i’ve learned from lectures, reading books, and from teachers is that Jannah is a reward, a reward so great that you can do what you want there, youve earned it. So from my mentality, the hoors will be given to the men that want it, it wont be forced upon you. I know Islam isn’t based on what we think, but whats written in the Quran & Hadiths, but that’s just the way i think of it. I’m a little uncomfortable about the idea of using women as a reward, not all men are like that.
August 13th, 2011 at 11:16 pm
Wa alaikum ussalam,
I am glad we have men reaching out to this site. Some girls would love to see more comments from guys like you. Thanks for taking the time to comment.
August 14th, 2011 at 12:13 pm
Ok I’m going to try not to think about it too much. It just bugs me though when you go to Khutbahs or lectures and the men spend like half an hour talking about the hoor al ayn and at the end they’re just like ‘oh but dont worry sisters, you’ll be more beautiful’. -__-
If we’re more beautiful than them, why do the guys get so hormonal over them?
I’m a bit confused though..because people say you’ll get whatever you want in Jannah but then in the hadith it says every man who enters jannah shall have at least 2 wives among the hoor al ayn. So what is correct? Allahu Alim…
August 14th, 2011 at 12:17 pm
I know what you mean. I agree lol if we’re better why would they want them anyway?… Then they say ppl will be satisfied there and won’t lust after anyone else.. So wouldn’t it be just as easy for Allah to make a wife and husband happy with each other as opppsed to a woman being happy with one man and her husbqnd being happy with the 73 wives? Lol and I don’t know either there are many different hadiths on it..
August 14th, 2011 at 1:04 pm
This is teh Ahadith I was talking about:
Narrated Abu Huraira: The Prophet said, “The first batch (of people) who will enter Paradise will be (glittering) like the full moon, and the batch next to them will be(glittering) like the most brilliant star in the sky. Their hearts will be as if the heart of a single man, for they will have neither enmity nor jealousy amongst themselves; everyone will have two wives from the houris, (who will be so beautiful, pure and transparent that) the marrow of the bones of their legs will be seen through the bones and the flesh.” [Al-Bukhari vol.4, book 54, number 476]
It says everyone..so does that indicate every man shall have at least 2 wives from the hoor al ayn, even the lowest man in Jannah?
August 14th, 2011 at 1:19 pm
I’ve read it before. Yes, that’s two and it goes up from there if I am not mistaken.
August 14th, 2011 at 1:56 pm
So in theory, if that’s true, then every man who enters Jannah, regardless of whether he wants hoors or not, will get them…
And that’s where I’m confused. Surely like everyone has said, Allah would give them a choice. So will he or not?
I think our best option is not to trouble ourselves..but it’s easier said than done. Maybe Allah did not reveal the answer to test our faith..to see if we would let this issue affect our imaan
August 14th, 2011 at 2:06 pm
I think this was assuming that no man in his right mind would ever refuse it, so yes. I think you are right. However, Allah does state in many verses of the Quran that the believers will have whatever they want in Jannah. WHATEVER. This is not to say that I can request for someone who is in hell to come to jannah as that may not be possible.. But this is a simple matter. Men wouldn’t be asking Allah for something extra. They’d just ask Him if He would allow the man to be with his wife only. I don’t think that is a huge request especially since the man is not asking for more. Do you get what I am trying to say? It should be very easy for Allah s.w.t. So don’t worry. I know easier than done. Believe me I still struggle with this. But, what can we do? Don’t trouble yourself over it, please. It’s not worth it
August 14th, 2011 at 2:24 pm
Yep I get it. And I understand..there’s no point worrying over something when our knowledge is nothing compared to Allah’s. He is al-Karim and al-Hakim..there is no reason for him to say no to our humble requests. Yes it is a reward, but Jannah itself is a reward..hoor al ayn are only a small part of it. The biggest reward will be meeting Allah swt.
August 14th, 2011 at 3:53 pm
I know. How awesome is it to be able to meet the Creator of the world? Man. Just imagine that.. I wonder if we’d be able to talk to Him.. That’s beside the point. Jannah itself is a reward as you said. Who wants to burn in the fire? Lol. So yes just focus on whatever you’ve to do for now, including praying on time and asking for guidance, and leave the rest up to Him. And stop looking for hadith, because I know I always get bothered by them and just feel really down, so I wouldn’t want you wasting your precious time feeling worthless lol.
August 14th, 2011 at 10:08 pm
Dear brothers and sisters,
Here is an excellent site that explains everything in great detail:
http://www.answering-christianity.com/pious_woman.pdf
August 15th, 2011 at 5:17 pm
Ok so I gave it some thought and I’ve come to the conclusion that Allah will never enforce it upon his servants; rather he will give them a choice. Firstly because not all guys are alike. Some want only their wife and value love over lust. And in Jannah, I’m sure I read somewhere that we will remember our lives on earth, and he will remember himself saying he wants only her, yet he is sort of breaking his promise if he went for the hoor al ayn..and there won’t be any negative feelings. And if his heart was sincere at the time of the promise, surely it will be sincere in Jannah (If you see what I’m trying to say.
And I guess some people find it awkward that promiscuity and adultery are haraam here, yet in Jannah you will have many wives. And I know you’ll be married and it’ll be pure, but some people do find it uncomfortable thinking about it, let alone taking part of it, so I don’t believe Allah will force him.
I’ve met some people say they don’t want wine in Jannah, even if it is not intoxicating. But there’s a sort of taboo against it, and I’m sure if they feel uncomfortable having it there, Allah won’t mind as the beauty of Jannah is endless and there are many other fruits and drinks to choose from.
So if you see what I’m trying to say, it may not matter if you miss out on wine, because there may be better drinks. So in the same way, it doesn’t matter if you’re missing out on the hoor al ayn, because you’ll get something better and more beautiful: your wife.
I did read somewhere where someone said, if your husbands ‘in the mood’ and you are occupied, the hoors will be a substitute, but I find this argument void..Jannah is everlasting. You will always be able to go back to what you’re doing..and whats the worst that will happen if you make him wait a couple hundred years?
No negative feelings over there
August 15th, 2011 at 5:52 pm
And how many times have you heard the phrase ‘Allah knows whats in his heart’? If he knows that a persons request is sincere,then surely he will grant him his wish
August 16th, 2011 at 10:36 am
I agree with you. As for wine, I don’t think it is that big of a deal because it is merely a drink. As long as it tastes good, why not? Lol, as for hoor al ayn, that’s a totally different category. It is a matter of your personal life.. Wine and hoor can’t be compared. I guess they won’t drink wine if they don’t want to! However, it isn’t as important as the matter of hoor, in my opiniom at least. Your conclusion is right. Keep faith, and stay well inshallah.
August 17th, 2011 at 6:56 am
Asalamuwailaikum sisters,
This topic has really been bugging me. Sometimes it would make me cry. Someone above commented that hoors are actually Muslim women, but then there’s this Hadith (don’t remember exactly which) that says that the Prophet (pbuh) said that Muslim women will be better than the hoors, so that means we aren’t the ones being talked about inthe Quran.
And what’s the point of being better and more beautiful if your husband has multiple wives and our desires truly won’t be satisfied? Also, there’s another Hadith that says women won’t be jealous of the hoors. How can we not? I don’t want my husband to have multiple wives but I’ll be ‘adjusted’ into being okay with it? My desires will have to be sacrificed for him for the rest of ETERNITY? Allah could’ve made this world absolutely any way he wanted to so why did He make men so horny? Also, shouldn’t the thought of rotting in hell be enough to keep one away from zina? Women have no ‘sexual motivation’ in the hereafter but yet still we try our best not to commit zina and other sins. And isn’t the devil that makes it hard on men (or women) when it comes to sex? If it isn’t, then feeling horny is perfectly normal for men and they’ll get hoors for that but on the other hand, it’s absurd for women? Is sex a gift truly only for men, and women just have it so that it pleases their husbands?
I don’t want to see my brothers, my father, and my husband being with hoors. I don’t want to be adjusted to that.
And when Allah says that we will be rewarded and paid for everything you did, but I find it so hard to believe. Maybe women deserve less because he made us inferior? “…And women shall have similar rights against them, according to what is equitable, but men have a degree (of advantage) above them” (2:228 Yusuf Ali). And also, maybe we deserve less because man was the original creation, and women was created afterwards and he made all the prophets (pbut) men? Honestly, I wish Allah made me a man but it won’t ever happen and if he did make me that in jannat, it wouldn’t be the same as being born one. Also, there’s a bunch of things a person couldn’t do in jannat. Lots of people like to play call of duty, so what if one person wanted to play a real life game in jannat? He couldn’t do that because killing is morally incorrect and the desire would go away but isn’t also having sex with 72 women also not right?
Don’t you agree women have to go through soo much more than men and it’s so much harder being a women? Then why do we get less when we go through more?
There’s a hadith (forgot exactly which but read it on some Islamic site) that says male martyrs will get 72 virgins and female martyrs will have a bunch of servants. What good does a servant do in jannat when you can get something in your hand within a blink of an eye (if that’s what u wanted)?
Also, I read that a wife will have to wait for her husband for 500 years to get ready for him. What’s the point?? He’s gonna go running of for hoors..
I read somewhere else ( I think it was in the comments or something, I forgot where) that if you wanted to reward your son you would give him a videogame and for a girl you’d give her a dolls. But if the girl wanted a videogame then it’s no problem. It’s not the same thing as hoors.
Personally, I don’t want to go to either Jannat nor Hell. You know the feeling you had in 1203 AD? Exactly, nothing. Thats what I want. I wont feel or care for anything. I won’t care if my father or brother is having fun with a bunch of hoors. I want to be a good Muslim for the sake of being Muslim because it’s the truth and to keep away from hell. Ill do my role as a women and a good muslim and then I’m done. I don’t want to live forever. I’d rather have this than see my husband or male relative being with hoors. I don’t want to be all of sudden okay with it and live with that forever.
I was just getting out all of my thoughts out here because as I said it’s really ticking me off. I hope I didn’t offend anyone. Also if I wrote horses anywhere, it’s meant to be hoors. Autocorrect mustve done that.
August 17th, 2011 at 4:37 pm
Hi sis. I know how you feel..I feel the exact same way, you could be my twin!!
I know what you mean about your male relatives having hoors. I even think about that myself. Even if I have a guy who doesn’t have the hoor al ayn, I’m still upset by the fact that my relatives will. I just wouldn’t be comfortable with that.
As a kid growing up, I used to read fairytales and watch disney movies..and I wanted to be just like those girls. To fall in love, get married and live happily ever after. And I know some things in those movies are quite unrealistic, but there’s nothing unrealistic about being with 1 person forever…and I wanted that until 2 years ago when I found out about the Hoor al Ayn. If men do get them, I just can’t accept the fact that its never just going to be the 2 of us…and I discovered the true nature of men and it upset me so much. All I want in life is to be happy..I don’t think that’s too much to ask. And now I don’t know if I can. If I got married, I’d be heart broken by the fact that my husband will be in the arms of another woman. It’s as if us wives are not good enough for our husbands and we’re only here in this world to satisfy their desires and to have kids.
Sometimes I feel like you and don’t want to go to Jannah..but I don’t want to go to Hell even more so there’s only one direction we can go. We don’t support the Christian ideology of purgatory either.
When I look around me and see guys around me..just by their attitude they seem like they’d never ever reject something as ‘beautiful’ as the hoor al ayn and I don’t want a guy like that.
I know its really bad to reject someone if their faith lies with Allah, but I wouldn’t be able to marry them if they desired hoor al ayn. Like I said earlier, all I want out of this life is to be happy and I can’t be happy with someone who only sees me as a meal ticket.
And Astughfirallah, but I can’t help but see that jannah is a place like this world, but with all the bad stuff made legal. I know it’s different and pure and stuff but still..
And some Muslim brothers I don’t understand. Though I don’t agree with the Shia, I never bash them. They have this marriage called Mutah, and I see Sunni brothers always criticizing them, saying it’s just prostitution made legal. Well isn’t being with the hoor al ayn in heaven promiscuity made legal?
Everytime a non Muslim asks me about virgins in heaven..I just feel embarrassed and lost for words and I can never give them an answer. I know it’s really bad but I honestly don’t know what to tell them.
Sometimes I wish I was a kid again..they’re so innocent and their view of heaven is so cute. A little boy asked me the other day whether he’d get lego in heaven and it made me smile but I felt so sad at the same time because if he was 10 years older he would be asking for something else.
As for dying a Shaheed..one of the 7 blessings is hoor al ayn, but I want to know again, if he does not desire it, will he not get it?
As for the hadith you mentioned, some I have never heard of so I will have to check. But I COMPLETELY understand where you’re coming from.
I think being a man and a woman have both their ups and downs. But recently I’ve been feeling that men are superior and little things are ticking me off. I like praying at the masjid in congregation, but why do women get more reward for praying at home. OK, she needs to take care of her family, but what if she lives alone?
I hate that so many Muslim men prefer for their wife to stay at home rather than work.
And when you ask scholars about equality in Islam, they say, women had rights to inheritance, college, decisions etc. 1400 years ago that she was not entitled to in the Western world. I would be satisfied by this if I was living 1400 years ago, but we live in the 21st century and now most women in the west now have rights.
I’m trying to forget about this whole topic but it’s really difficult. I cannot pray or read Qur’an the same way that I used to because before my imaan was higher. Until I’m enlightened, I’m scared my Imaan won’t increase but there’s so many difference in opinion.
Wallah I understand you sis. May Allah for give us for anything controversial that we may have said and may He guide us and give us answers..amin
August 17th, 2011 at 6:12 pm
Ussalamu Alaikum sisters Amira and Nadia,
I know how each of you feels. BELIEVE ME. Amira, I’ve read that hadith before. I’ve read it all. I know what you’re thinking, but all I can say is to STOP thinking it. Listen, the Quran comes first. Ahadith may be categorized as sahih/authentic, but they were all collected approximately TWO CENTURIES after the death of Prophet Muhammad, S.A.W. I’m not saying to reject hadith, but whatever goes against the Quran, is wrong no matter who says it is authentic. Also, now that I’ve dealt with this issue for about five years, I’m starting to think with my heart. If something doesn’t sound Islamic to me, my heart won’t accept it. Not anymore. I know how both of you feel, I really do, and it is a terrible state to be in. Nadia, forget about your male relatives. I was just like you, imagining my dad with other women, etc. BUT, he is your DAD. Not your husband. Focus on your husband, your father is your mother’s husband, that’s between the two of them. I hope I don’t come off as harsh with my commands, but I tell you this because I’ve been there. I’ve thought every single thought that you two are having. Amira, as for the whole wives waiting 500 yrs for their husbands thing, I don’t know if it is sahih or not but regardless, Allah tells us in the Quran:
“‘O My slaves! You will feel no fear today; you will know no sorrow.’ Those who believed in Our Signs and became Muslims: ‘Enter the Garden, you and your wives, delighting in your joy.’ Platters and cups of gold will passed around among them and they will have there all that their hearts desire and their eyes find delight in. You will remain in it timelessly forever. That is the Garden you will inherit for what you did. There will be many fruits in it for you to eat.” (43:68-73)
READ IT CAREFULLY. It says, “Enter the Garden, you and YOUR WIVES..” right? Technically, this is addressing the believing men–the men who are righteous, and who presumably have righteous wives who are on the straight path. Therefore, Allah basically says that if you and your spouse help each other stay on the right path, as spouses are expected to do, thenyou will both enter Jannah together inshallah. Now, where in the Quran does it say that a wife will have to wait for her husband in Jannah? If a man is in hell, his wife does not need to wait for him to come out of heaven then be with her.. She can just marry someone else. I guess it is whatever she wants but the point is that the Quran does not mention that, so Amira don’t worry about that hadith.
I understand you both very, very, very well. If I will be superior to the hoors, and I will be the most beautiful, then why on earth would my husband want to be with them? I don’t know. I really don’t. This is why this topic does not really make much sense to me because scholars say, “Don’t worry, you will be superior and more beautiful than them. YOu will be the Queen!” Uh, ok.. that doesn’t help much does it? It also seems a bit contradictory because if I am the most beautiful, why would he want the hoor al ayn???!?? There is a missing puzzle piece here. I ask Allah s.w.t. to guide us to the Right Path Inshallah. I also understand what you guys mean by hoor al ayn in jannah making heaven seem… impure. Scholars say that men will be married to these women, so is it haram to sleep with your wife? NO! That is their answer. However, I know what you mean because we are constantly told that Islam is the deen of modesty and moderation. 72 Virgins don’t seem to fit into that description…. Moreover, I don’t think that scholars should say that this is to motivate the men of this world.. Well, how about the people who like gambling? Or the people who have incestuous tendencies? Will they be able to gamble in jannah, or sleep with their siblings? I don’t think so. Again, there’s something iffy about this topic, and my heart refuses to believe in “special creatures” created for the men of this world, because one can argue that women face temptations in this dunya as well… yet scholars will tell you that a woman will be married to only one man in Jannah and that it is disgraceful for a Muslim woman to even think of more than one man at once! YET… they say this is natural for men.
Listen to me, please. Don’t lose hope. Don’t judge all men based on the few that surround you. I don’t know how old you girls are. I don’t. But if you’re judging based on the group of guys you see in high school, or the first few years of college, then don’t. I assure you, there ARE good men out there. I think this is just an excuse that “men are more polygamous by nature.. blah blah blah blah.” Whatever. There are good guys out there. Really religious guys out there. Don’t be disheartened by the things you read on forums about hoor al ayn, or what you read from scholars. Trust me, they make it seem like all men are a, b, and c, and that all women have characteristics that are x, y, and z. Allah s.w.t. says,
“And among His signs is this: that He created mates for you from yourselves that you may find rest and peace of mind in them, and He ordained between you love and mercy. Certainly, herein indeed are signs for people who reflect” (30:21).
A question that arises in my mind is, why does Allah need to say that he created mates for people “from [ourselves]“? Why does he need to specify that? Obviously we all know that we marry within the human species.. so why the specification? He also says “herein indeed are signs for PEOPLE WHO REFLECT,” in other words, this is a sign for those people who THINK. This just makes me think, with my limited knowledge, that Allah created us for each other, which means that we all have things in common. FIrst off it throws off the idea of hoor in my mind because I wonder why Allah emphasizes marriage to people from our own species, but then our husbands marry women of a different creation?.. I don’t know. Regardless, this means that men and women have more similarities than differences. Sure our bodies are created differently, but looking at it from a general perspective, humans are alike. Men want to succeed, women want to succeed. Men want a happy life, women want a happy life. Men want to enjoy their lives and please their Lord, and so do women. Not all men and women, but I hope you get my point.
As for your thoughts, Amira, on whether women are inferior to men.. Adam A.S. was married to Eve only. He didn’t have many wives though he was in Jannah. That’s quite interesting to me, yet beside the point lol. Women are not inferior to men. If they were, Allah wouldn’t have said:
“For Muslim men and women, for believing men and women, for devout men and women, for true men and women, for men and women who are patient and constant, for men and women who humble themselves, for men and women who give in charity, for men and women who fast, for men and women who guard their chastity, and for men and women who engage much in Allah’s praise, for them has Allah prepared forgiveness and great reward” (33:35).
The fact that Allah mentions both genders shows a lot. Despite what the enemies of Islam try to spread, the truth is right there before you sisters. And by enemies of Islam, I am not referring to just those who are non-Muslims and speak badly of the religion; I am referring to some Muslims who do so as well, either out of ignorance, or in order to mislead others. Allah says it clearly. What more do we want? Read the last part of that ayat again: “for men and women who engage much in Allah’s praise, for THEM has Allah prepared forgiveness and great reward.”
THEM. That is the key word. Women and men are not only mentioned together within that ayat, but Allah also refers to both genders as “them,” sort of unifying us as one–since we are all part of one species and are all the slaves of Allah.
I hope that my post brings some peace to your hearts. Do let me know how you two are feeling. Just know that Allah is most Just. He even describes spouses as being each others’ garments:
“They are your garment and you are a garment for them” (2:187).
You’re not getting this idea of marrying one man and being happy with him from Disney movies or anything like that. Our beautiful religion of Islam says the same thing. Don’t you see the beauty in the few ayats I have posted? I think it’s the scholars who are making you think that you’ve been affected by “fairytales” and “romance novels,” as that one “scholar” told the man who sincerely asked if he would be able to live with only his wife in Jannah and reject the hoor. Just ponder upon the things I have said, and let me know what you think. Please stop thinking the things you are thinking about lest Allah gives you a real problem to worry about, such as an ill family member, a death, or any other type of calamity. Please say astaghfar and try to move on this topic. Allahu Alam, people will say what they will but only Allah knows the truth.
August 17th, 2011 at 6:13 pm
I know how each of you feel.*
August 17th, 2011 at 6:19 pm
Try to move on from this topic.* Talk about typos!!!!
August 17th, 2011 at 9:14 pm
Walaikumsalaam
It’s truly comforting to know that I’m not the only one feeling this way. I’m only 16 and I discovered the existence of hoors around 13. I couldn’t talk about it with anyone. One of my religious friends went to this religious seminar I believe where they translate the Quran. I asked if they talked about virgins. She told me to shutup and not think so pervertedly. Also, I asked my mom and she said guys are perverts. Why? Why would Allah allow guys to be perverts? By saying that, is she saying that the prophets and sahabas are perverts thus insulting them? I just don’t get it. It’s just really hard to talk about it with anyone. They might scold you for thinking something so stupid like that or tell you what the scholars say. And my friends, they seem not to know about it and be totally naive about the subject and it bothers me. The anger and hopelessness keeps building and building. Basically, it’s glad to know someone out there gets it.
Aisha, its just really hard to just drop it. I can’t simply just ignore it. We’re dealing with the rest of our eternity here. I truly think is a real problem. Anything that keeps you from what you usually do like depression or anxiety is a problem. Calamities such as death are somewhat temporary. You’ll see your loved one again. But this issue, it’s eternity.
Regarding Hadith, can we do that? Are we allowed to pick and choose what to believe? I don’t know if you know about this site, free-minds.org, but it talks about completely disregarding Hadith. Like you said, the Hadith was compiled 2 centuries after the prophet and they use this among other excuses to disregard Hadith. They don’t believe in the head covering hijab, the normal way of salaat, alcohol being haraam, not praying during menses, and etc. One part of me wants to believe that but the other part simply believes it’s not possible to do that. If you except one part of Hadith, don’t you have to decide the whole thing?
It’s hard to accept that my male relatives will have hoors. I don’t want to go up to my brothers and say ‘hey let’s do something’ but then see them with the hoors. Even though they aren’t my husband, it still hurts because they’re related to me by blood!
There are good religious men but it doesn’t mean they don’t feel sexual desires. The prophets (pbut) and the sahabas were good people but I’m pretty sure they felt sexual desires. They’re only human. And I do believe that men are more polygamous. I mean their libido is higher than a women. Scientifically speaking, women have less libido because of the natural instinct of finding one suitable husband so they can take care of their children properly. Women want the best one and men want a lot. Women want quality and men want quantity. Also another thing why more men are more polygamous is that women are more appealing than men. If men were more ‘handsome’ do you think that women would want them more? Maybe this is solely for the purpose of reproduction but then why does it continue on into heaven? Id prefer to live in a world where one man naturally wants one woman, vise versa. Again, like I said I think Allah gave of the gift of sex to men and beauty (personally I think it’s more of a burden and it works to the advantage of men) to women. Maybe this is solely for the purpose of reproduction but then why does it continue on into heaven? Id prefer to live in a world where one man naturally want one woman, vise versa. But it seems to me that it won’t. So what I want won’t be satisfied. Why would Allah change the whole course of human nature just for me? Wouldn’t it be easier for me just to not ‘exist’ so that I won’t care or have feelings? Do you know that one Hadith that animals will become sand? I wish that would happen to me. Not exactly sand but the whole concept of completing my role on this earth and then be finished and not have to feel anything like an animal. If a man can reject a hoor then can’t I reject the whole thing?
Sometimes when I see women being religious, I think “don’t they about the hoors, and it doesn’t bother them. HOW? do they simply not know? If they do, how can they be okay with this? Women have to worry about so much more than men but yet still we’ll get less.”
The quote about ‘devout men and women..etc” notice how men is first and then women. If Allah wanted, could he have just said ‘believers’?
And the part where He says ‘them’ as a way of uniting men and women, well Allah also says ‘Alameen’ as a way of uniting all the free-will creations but still, jinns are inferior to humans.
Nadia, about working, I’ve read that women can work and such but I’ve also read that women shouldn’t go out unless it’s necessary. This really doesnt have anything to do with hoors but its just a thought about Jannat. Also, having a certain profession won’t be carried out into jannat b/c there would be no need, right? Like if someone, man or women, wanted to be a doctor, but he/she couldn’t do that in this world bc he couldn’t afford it or it was too much work, will he be able to a doctor in Jannat? There wouldn’t be a need of a doctor b/c there would be no sickness, no blood, nothing dirty so his/her desire to be this won’t ever be fulfilled. I wanted to become a homicidal detective because my interest in forensics but i cant do that here because they dont pay much and it wouldn’t be enough to support my family. I won’t be able to do that jannat either because there will be no dead bodies. I’m not trying to say let’s kill or sicken people just for the sake of satisfying our desires. Just saying that, some desires won’t be fulfilled, so what do we do?
August 17th, 2011 at 9:42 pm
Sister Amira–you’re basically saying all men want lots of women. If you really think so, then what are you so worried about? That’s your answer.. They’re all interested in quantity, therefore they get hoor al ayn. I don’t really understand your concern, lol.. And I believe that if you want to be a homicidal detective, I’m sure it is very easy for Allah to make dead bodies appear.. Anything is possible for him. there is also a hadith I read somewhere about how a man was a farmer in this dunya, and wanted to cultivate land in Jannah as well, so he was able to do so. Honey, if you’re saying that all men are horny and that’s all they want, then what are you so sad about? It is what it is. You can’t change that. I disagree with you because not all men are perverts. You cannot call the prophets perverts as you said, so of course that means that not all men are dogs. Moreover, you say that this does not negate the fact that the prophets had sexual desires.. So what? Don’t you have any sexual desires? Sorry if I’m being rude or anything, but I’m just a little lost here. I think sister Nadia and I are more on the same page as she is wondering if a man will be able to reject hoor or not, whereas you are on the one hand arguing that all men want sex only, yet saying that this (according to you fact) bothers you.
August 17th, 2011 at 9:47 pm
By the way, I think you’re talking more like Charles Darwin and his theory of evolution…I do know about that site because a sister posted it on here, but they disregard hadith completely. I cannot do that as the hadith is the only source we have which teaches us how to offer salah. I emailed the author of that article asking him how else we’d be able to pray if it were not for hadith, but he still has not replied..I wouldn’t believe people who say that alcohol is not haram and that you can pray while menstruating.. These things are clearly haram. I know that you can accept some hadith and reject others because nothing comes before the Quran, and anything that contradicts it is out the window.
August 17th, 2011 at 10:44 pm
I don’t think it’s far men get that and women don’t have a similar level. I just don’t think that’s fair. I don’t like how some things are like here on this earth. And if it’s continued on into heaven, I don’t want to live forever like that. I dont want to be adjusted into accepting it.
I’m just talking about my view of this topic instead of letting it bottle up not whether or not men can reject hoors.
Yeah, I do have sexual desires but the only motivation I have so that I do not to act out on them is not to burn in hell. On the other hand, men…you know.
Allah will make dead bodies ….in Jannat for me? I thought you couldnt have blood or anything nasty in jannat.. Cultivating is something else. It just involves farm tools, seeds, and animals.
I’m not saying all men. I mean the majority. Not everyone is alike, I understand that.
My emotions on this topic are all over the place. Sometimes I think hoors are merely decoration in jannat and men aren’t actually gonna be all over them; its just something to keep them away from zina. And sometimes the whole topic pisses me off. I understand what I say contradicts the other and its hard to follow but it’s just my way of thinking out loud.
Concerning that website, yeah, that’s exactly what I was thinking.
Okay, I don’t know whether or not you heard this Hadith before and again this one I totally don’t remember where it came from so I’m doing this off of memory. It says if a women has more than one husband in this world, she’ll get to pick the first one she got married with, and then some other Hadith says it’ll be the one she likes the most. What if she doesn’t wanna choose? And is this reliable since it kinda goes against how Allah says in the quran that everyone will get what they want?
August 17th, 2011 at 11:03 pm
Salam,
Before you said that men have more libido, but now you’re saying women should have something equal to the hoor for men, right? That would mean that women ALSO value quantity over quality.Point is, I’m right in that all men and women are different. We can’t say all men want lots of women, and we can’t say that all women want to be with one man only. I understand you, but I don’t know why women don’t have the same reward. I really don’t. I’ve read that hadith before. It’s that if a woman has marrie dmore than once in her life, she will be married to the one with the best character. Then another hadith says that she will be married to the last man she was with in this dunya.. I don’t know.. It seems to contradict each other bc what if the last husband was one with bad character? Allahu Alam, I think it is her decision as long as she makes it to jannah.
August 17th, 2011 at 11:26 pm
Salaam,
It’s hard to put exactly what I mean in words.
Not exactly equal but equal in another way that would motivate women. If a woman wanted to have sex with a man, her only motivation to keep away from that is not wanting hellfire. But on the other hand, a man wants the same thing, he would think ‘oh I’ll get a lot more hotter girls than her’. Doesn’t seem fair. And also, the reward of hoors interferes with what women want(unless she’s already okay with her husband having all those wives). Let’s say if a man and his wife have exactly the same status and they did the exact amount of good deeds and bad deeds. The man wants hoors but the women doesn’t want to share. What happens? Will the man get what he wants and the women’s desires will be adjusted to fit his?
August 17th, 2011 at 11:32 pm
Idk to be honest. It is a man’s right to have them, so I don’t know.. But if a guy didn’t want to be with me only, then I wouldn’t find him worthy of me anyway, so the heck with him let him have the other women!
August 18th, 2011 at 12:45 am
After reading the link sister StudentDrMama posted (Marriage of a Muslim women), I believe all my questions and doubts were answered. Jazakallah sister for posting that. Jazakallah sister Aisha for making this article. I don’t think I would’ve ever found peace if you didn’t make this article. Jazakallah everyone else. If only I read that sooner. I ask Allah for forgiveness for having doubts in him.
August 18th, 2011 at 5:54 am
Sis as much as I’d love to believe that article, I don’t understand..if that article were true that would mean most Muslim scholars are wrong about the topic of Hoor Al Ayn even though they’ve been studying the Arabic language for years.
And I understand if we’re recreated and so we’ll be pure so no jinn or mankind has touched us before, but if it were true, why didn’t the Qur’an just use the words ‘believing women’instead of ‘hoor’. Allah wouldn’t make the Qur’an a crypt we need to unravel; rather wouldn’t he just tell us that the hoor al ayn will be us women, if it was?
And I also heard about an Ahadith that stated the hoor al ayn will try and be really affectionate to the husband, but then us (women) will say we deserve to be loved more; we were faithful servants to Allah. Or something along thosr lines. This clearly shows that they’re both different creation but I have to try and find it again to see if it’s Sahih.
August 18th, 2011 at 10:57 am
Also I just checked Surah Waqiah…hoor al ayn are described as a ‘special creation’..they must be different.
But if it helps you, I’m going to email Islamqa about it again. I don’t really like reading about it there though…they seem to go overboard with it and are kinda aggressive over the fact that men get it but women should be happy with only their husband even though the Arabic word could address men and women. I’m not judging them or addressing them specifically here, but I do find a few men want to get to jannah because of the hoor al ayn only. It makes me wonder if they would be as pious if the Qur’an had not mentioned them.
And what you said about men being lust driven, I know what you mean because I have not yet found a man who wasn’t. But come on, with a world of 7bn people,there has to be a man that isn’t. Beauty is subjective and varies from person to person and I’m sure there are men who find the idea of hoors unappealing.
One of the 6 pillars of Imaan is al Qadr..destiny. Our fate is written down. Sometimes I do question why I exist because I find I don’t fit in in this world. So I decided to just forget about hoors and don’t think about tomorrow. Think about right now and try to be a good Muslim. If what you want is a humble man who doesn’t want hoor al ayn than Inshallah Allah will bring you together for he is all knowing. That’s the way I try and think about it tbh
August 18th, 2011 at 11:09 am
Nadia, look at what brother Sami wrote: “I’m a little uncomfortable about the idea of using women as a reward, not all men are like that.”
I am sure there are more men like him out there. And you’re welcome Amira, though I am a little confused about that site bc how can every scholar be wrong? But then again I remember Zakir Naik saying that a man will have a hoor, which is his wife, and a woman will have a hoor, who is her husband.. When I read the link that StudentDrMama posted, I felt like it rang a bell.. I just wish Dr. Naik would have explained the dual v. singular thing that the site does so that way I would know what was correct.. I always wondered how Dr. Naik coild just ignore all these other hadiths but maybe he too thinks they are weak and is of the same opinion as StudentDrMama and the link she posted. Allahu Alam.
August 18th, 2011 at 2:21 pm
Asalamuwailaikum,
Now I’m rethinking the article. Everything makes sense but why are other scholars or other people hung up on this fact of hoors? In the Quran it says not to perverse the truth. Isn’t that what they’re doing?
Isn’t there two gardens, one of jinns and one for mankind?
There’s this quote from Hadith or Quran that says jinns will be paired with jinns and humans will be paired with humans. The hoors the scholars are obsessed about aren’t human. So why would men be paired up with them?
“And made them virgin – pure (and undefiled)” (56:37)
How do you make something virgin if it was already virgin? If it was human (most human beings dont die a virgin) Allah could easily make her a virgin again. If it was something he just created, it never had sex before anyways so you can’t make it virgin because it already is.
“A goodly number from those of old. And a goodly number of those from later times” (56:39-40) Correct me if I’m wrong, but does that mean the hoors will be from old and later times?
Nadia, possibly Allah meant that we won’t exactly be women anymore but something totally different.
Allah won’t be injustice to men and women, so if this is making you feel uneasy then why would he do that? Why would he give men one thing and not give it to women?
August 18th, 2011 at 2:31 pm
I know, I have read those hadiths too and that is why I am getting more confused about whether hoor even exist or if it is what StudentDrMama posted and refers to the wives and husbands of this world who will be recreated.. Since if hoor are a special creation why would they be recreated? Lol so confusing.
August 18th, 2011 at 2:53 pm
“A goodly number from those of old. And a goodly number of those from later times” (56:39-40)
Isn’t that referring to the actual people of paradise? (Human&Jinn)
August 18th, 2011 at 2:54 pm
Back in Europe during the Protestant reformation, catholic priests used to sell indulgences, a piece if paper that reduces time in purgatory. This is an example of how priest control religion. Do you think the scholars today are doing something similar to this? They use the concept of hoor from the Quran, twist it around, and use the new concept to make men follow their religion by looking for/making up Hadith that are for their cause. And scholars learn from other scholars, right? Then this ‘hoor’ gets passed down. And since they’re scholars we believe everything they say. (not saying this happens for sure but it’s a theory.) Quran is of old Arabic, right? So possibly back then the connotation of everything about ‘hoor’ meant recreation of this dunya’s women?
August 18th, 2011 at 2:56 pm
Nadia- that’s what I was thinking too. But like Aisha said, how do you recreate something if it was already originally created? And how do you make something virgin if it’s already virgin?
August 18th, 2011 at 3:07 pm
I always wondered if scholars did that too lol. Idk what the past and later times ayat is about but check this link out and scroll down to ayat 36… It seems like we are on the right path but where does the hoor idea come from lol?
http://www.quranenglish.com/tafheem_quran/056.htm
August 18th, 2011 at 3:12 pm
Girls, I went on the same site just typed in 55.htm instead of 56 at the end of that link. Take a look at this tafsir for the ayat in surah ar rahman that mentions maidens who have never been touched before, etc. This is the tafsir:
(55:56) In the midst of these shall be maidens with modest, restrained glances; *45 maidens whom no man or jinn has ever touched before. *46
*45 This is the real character of the woman: she should neither be shameless nor immodest, but should have modesty in her looks. That is why AIIah while making a mention of women among the blessings ofParadise has first of aII praised their modesty and chastity and not their beauty and physical charms. Beautiful women can get together in mixed clubs and film studios and beauty contests where the select beautiful women onlv are admitted. but a person of low taste and mentality only can show any interest in them. No noble person can find any charm in the beauty that attracts every evil look and is ready to tall in every lap!
*46 This means that in the worldly life whether a woman died a spinster. or as the wife of somebody. or died young, or as an old woman, in the Hereafter when aII the righteous women enter Paradise, they will be made young and virgins: and any of the women who is made a lift-partner of a righteous man, will not have heen possessed by anyone before that husband, in Paradise. This verse also shows that the righteous jinn too will enter Paradise like the righteus men. Men will havc women from their own kind and the jinn their wives from their own kind: both the kinds will have their mates from their own particular kind. No person of one kind will be made a partner of a member of :mother kind with whom he cannot live as husband or wife naturally. The words of the verse “…whom neither man nor jinn will havc touched before them,” do not mean that the women there will only be of human species and they will not havc heen touched by any man or jinn before their husbands, but its real meaning is: In Paradise there will be women of both the jinn and the human species; they aII will he modest and untouched: neither a jinn female will have been touched by a jinn male before her husband in Paradise, nor a human female will have been touched by a human male before her husband in Paradise.
August 18th, 2011 at 3:22 pm
I think Dr. Naik was right all this time! I wish he had explained the technicality within Arabic and why the hadith on two wives is actually referring to the husband and wife. I also wish he had mentioned that all the hadith about men having tents that are sixty miles wide with a wife in each corner, etc, are weak. I just do not get why people say those hadith are authentic and keep talking about hoor if that is not what the Quran intends. I’m glad you two kept posting on here. You two, and StudentDrMama have helped me learn more about my religion. Keep it up. Thank you all
August 18th, 2011 at 3:25 pm
and look at this:
(55:72) There shall be maidens sheltered in tents. *51
*51 For the explanation of her see E. N’s 28, 29 of Surah As-Saaffat and E.N. 42 of Surah Ad-Dukhan the tents probably will be similar to those pitched for the nobles and rich people in the public parks. Most probably the wives of the dwellers of Paradise will live with them in their palaces and in their parks there will be tents pitched here and there in which there will be the houris to entertain them. Our this presumption is based on this that in the foregoing verses beautiful and chase wives havc been mentioned; now, here, mention of the houris signifies that they will be a different kind of women from the wives. This presumption is further strengthened by the Hadith which Hadrat Umm Salamah has reported. She says: ‘I asked: O messenger of AIIah, who are better: the women of the world or the houris! The Holy Prophet replied: The women of the world are superior to the houris in the same way as the outer layer of a garment is superior to its lining. I asked: On what grounds ? he replied: On the ground that the women have offered their Prayers, observed their Fasts, and performed other devotions.” (Tabarani). This shows that the wives of the dwellers of Paradise will be the women who affirmed the faith in the world and left the world while they practised good and right. They will enter Paradise in consequence of their faith and good deeds, and will deserve the blessings of Paradise on merit. They would either become the wives of their previous husbands of their own free will and choice. if they too happened to be dwellers of Paradise, or AIIah will wed them to some other dweller of Paradise, if the two would like to live together as husband and wife. As for the houris they will not be entitled to dwell in Paradise as a result of any righteous deed of their own, but AIIah will create them as young, beautiful women and bestow them also as a blessing among the other blessings on the dwellers of Paradise so that they may enjoy their companionship. But they will not in any case be creatures of the kind of the jinn and fairies, for man cannot cohabit with a kind other than his own. Therefore, most probably these would be those innocent girls who died immature, and whose parents did not deserve Paradise so that they could be admitted to Paradise with them as the children of their righteous torrents.
Do you think this is really the right interpretation? I’m kinda confused atm..
August 18th, 2011 at 3:30 pm
Knowledge is power. Power can totally change a person. Maybe some scholars were this way and taught their students things they created and it continues this way.
This reminds me, there was this documentary of Islam on tv, and the topic of female circumcision arose and one of the scholars from Egypt said yes we should allow complete female circumcision that way she doesn’t commit zina. ???!??? How do these scholars come up with such things?
Wow Jazakallah sister. That was really helpful. Imma book mark that link. Seems to me we are on the right path. It’s just gonna be hard telling stubborn men.
August 18th, 2011 at 3:32 pm
Yeah I’m looking into this and it is not making much sense. The women of this dunya being recreated makes sense but look at this.
http://www.quranenglish.com/tafheem%5Fquran/037-1.htm
It mentions the young girls being hoors in footnote 29.. And i went to surah dukkan and it referenced me to E.N. 26 and 29 of As Saffat which did not even relate lol..i am confused too lol!! I don’t know anymore!
August 18th, 2011 at 3:34 pm
Sister Amira, I have seen so many videos on youtube that depict Arab scholars saying insane things, like how your wife is an animal and should be beaten in such and such way.. Idk.. That’s why I don’t really trust it too much..
August 18th, 2011 at 3:38 pm
haha yes! I’m so happy right now. I’m going to bookmark this page and these links too.
Thanks so much girls & Drstudentmama. InshAllah oneday we’ll all meet each other in Jannah
I’m so glad we talked this out..it benefited all of us! Now I can practice Islam without a doubt in my mind.
It seemed odd to me that a man could choose how many wives he had in this world but not the next. Allah would never enforce anything upon us. Barakallahu Fik
August 18th, 2011 at 3:41 pm
That’s great, but I am still confused!! What type of entertainment is he talking about… And why are hoor translated as women of another species just based off of that hadith if until now he said that it is the women of this world who will be recreated, just as old men will be recreated? Lol I am lost!!!
August 18th, 2011 at 3:42 pm
Hmm Nadia, I’m not exactly sure. We’d first have to establish if that Hadith is authentic. If houris are women of this world recreated then wouldn’t houris be better version of ourselves? Unless you mean this world’s women are superior to the ones that died earlier. I’m confused.. But the rest of it sounds fine.
This doesn’t have to do with hoors:
As for the girls and boys died immaturely or if they were mentally handicapped, cant they request for their parents to be with them instead going to hell(if they were believers)?
August 18th, 2011 at 3:48 pm
Kids who die before reaching pubertty go to jannah.. I dont know why they would be hoor or anything like that. Also, where does this interpreter get the idea that hoor are for entertainment? If that were the case, why would Umm Salamah even ask if they are superior to us? It should not even matter since it is not like our husbands would feel desire for anyone else in Jannah (they would be content amd bad qualities of humans will be removed in Jannah anyway)… So I don’t know where this is coming from..
August 18th, 2011 at 3:49 pm
Oh I misread the explanation..
I thought it said they can’t cohabit, but they actually can. I presume thats what the ‘entertainment’ is now.
Now I’m confused
August 18th, 2011 at 3:49 pm
Okay forget what i said about the Hadith Nadia posted.. Y’all reply to fast lol.
Aisha, I can’t find what your talking about on that page, but I guess entertainment means anything fun. Hmmm…
Another thing this brings me too: what are the young male servers in jannat??
August 18th, 2011 at 3:51 pm
I guess you could live with other species but you can’t get it on with them.
August 18th, 2011 at 3:53 pm
Re-read this:” But they will NOT in any case be creatures of the kind of the jinn and fairies, for man CANNOT COHABIT with a kind other than his own. Therefore, most probably these would be those innocent girls who died immature, and whose parents did not deserve Paradise so that they could be admitted to Paradise with them as the children of their righteous torrents.”
So that means that hoor are women.. Not of a different creation… But that means that men will marry them since the interpreter said that they must be human bc men cannot cohabit with fairies or jinn.. So what i am wondering is how men would even marry them if they are just for entertainment? And I don’t know where he got entertainment from.. Basically he is saying these are the girls who died immature or whose parents did not make it to jannah, n I guess men will marry them? But what do my parents have to do with ME?
August 18th, 2011 at 3:56 pm
Amira, he is saying that hoor are human women, not different species.. Yet idk where he got entertainment from, and I just don’t get why he has the hadith about hoor being inferior to humans if hoor will be humans that are recreated.. Then why would Umm Salama even wonder/question it? This is weird…
August 18th, 2011 at 3:58 pm
I don’t understand what that parent bit at the end has to do with anything. And FAIRIES??? What?
August 18th, 2011 at 4:01 pm
He is saying hoor will be women of this world who died young or whose parents didnt make it to jannah and they will entertain ppl but he also says they must b women of this world bc man cant cohabit w fairies, so tht means men will marry them, n idk why the ppl who died young cant just live in jannah as opposed to being entertainers. Guess this interpretation is fishy, il have to research the guy.
August 18th, 2011 at 4:07 pm
No..it doesn’t make sense anymore. If they are people from our world, why would they be made into servants?
August 18th, 2011 at 4:09 pm
Ohh okayy.
Entertainment could just mean enjoying each others company. As for the little girls, I don’t think they’re Gina marry already married men. There are so many boys that have died young and there are those that are biologically incapable of following religion.
Well, you love your parents. You wouldn’t wanna see them burn in hell. So you could request them as long as they didn’t commit shirk.
August 18th, 2011 at 4:11 pm
OH okay. Now I get it.
Yeah that’s fishy.. Servants and entertainers as if their sole purpose is that..
I don’t know what to say..
Now I’m confused..
August 18th, 2011 at 4:12 pm
Gonna* not Gina.
Now I get what your trying to say***
August 18th, 2011 at 4:15 pm
haha, lols I am so so loving this conversation but at the same time it makes me sad that girls as young as 16 are caught up in this idea of hoor. Do you lot seriously think that this stuff didn’t bother ashabiyaas (female companions of Holy Prophet PBUH)?.
You could do better things sisters with the amount of knowledge you have.
Any ways sister all I want to say is that please leave this here; I am sure no matter what a man says won’t satisfy your curiosity. May Allah (swt) help you all get over these trivial issues before you all get married otherwise you sisters are going to make the life of those poor husbands a living hell. But I know who cares.
Wasalam,
August 18th, 2011 at 4:17 pm
But he didnt aay u cud request ur parents did he?
August 18th, 2011 at 4:21 pm
Asalamuwailaikum,
Honestly I think this is a reasonable concern. If it’s affecting our imaan and our image of Islam, it shouldn’t just be left alone.
It probably didn’t bother the ashabiyas because they knew the true meaning of hoors, not the ones that are made up.
August 18th, 2011 at 4:23 pm
Actually he didn’t say that, my parents told me. but Allah is the most merciful and oft-forgiving and for a child that died so young, they would have the desire to see their parents.
August 18th, 2011 at 4:24 pm
that’s because any doubts the women of Islam had they could just ask rasulallah saw. Unfortunately we can’t
August 18th, 2011 at 4:27 pm
No, I know that I am saying if they were not other women as scholars say, why would Umm Salamah ask? She would just have the prophet s.a.w. clarify it once and for all… So i am thinking maybe they are of a different creation and will be given to men, why else would um salamah question if she will be superior (women of dunya) or those women.. U get me?
August 18th, 2011 at 4:31 pm
Yeah i get you. Did you check the authenticity of the Hadith?
August 18th, 2011 at 4:40 pm
@Amira,
Truth is that the women at that time were more concerned for their akhirah rather than husband. It doesn’t make sense that a place we haven’t gotten yet and we discuss what is it going to be like. Did you care to read my earlier replies to Aisha? No
Also, have you heard of Alm-e-Arwah where we were just souls. Do you remember anything from their or least who were you were standing next too?
Take the clue if you can.
Your first reply I read may be 3 times even though it was lengthy but it was so sweet and innocent at the same time that I couldn’t resist reading over and over again.
How do you know that you will remember that who was your brother, father or mother for that matter to enjoy some family time as you said in your earlier post “WHAT IF I ASK MY BROTHER TO HAVE SOME FUN TOGETHER AND HE SAYS HE IS WITH HOORS”.
I am disappointed that what kind of picture you sisters paint of you brothers, fathers , husbands or else any male figure for that matter. Do you seriously think that SEX is 24/7 on our mind, peeking/staring at scantitly women, cheating, sex hungry perverts. (Please don’t assume that I am offended at all).
Again, what makes you think that it didn’t bother ashabiyas?
Unfortunately I am quoting this again just to show you that women of that time were also concerned about this issue but they didn’t let this become a hindarance to practice religion so well that they were given the good news of people of Jannah in this world.
Hazrat Umma Salma (R.A)asked Holy Prophet (PBUH);
Oh Prophet of Allah (PBUH); Who will be more beautiful in Jannah; A Muslim wife or a Hoor?
Holy Prophet (PBUH) replied; Oh Umma Salma! Muslim women will be made more beautiful in Jannah as compared to Hoors.
She asked why? (mean which deeds she should have to have this kind of reward).
Prophet (PBUH) replied;
” Because of their prayers, fasting, and worship; Allah (swt) will put his light (noor) on their faces”.
Again sadly I would say that your whole argument revolves around men but you didn’t bother to read our comments, thoughts, feelings on this issue. If you did then sadly you didn’t learn anything.
Wasalam,
August 18th, 2011 at 4:42 pm
@Nadia, What makes you so sure that they were told that their were no Hoors or anything similar in the Jannat to clear the doubts of those women. We shouldn’t be assuming things from ourselves. Please read my reply to Amira.
Wasalam,
August 18th, 2011 at 4:44 pm
Maybe the link posted by studentdrmama was written by a Koranist. They pick and choose hadith to fit their liking.
Actually I think they are a separate creation. If they were us recreated surely Allah would’ve mentioned it.
Even if they were us women, there’s a Bukhari hadith that says the men will have TWO wives from among the hoor al aunt.
August 18th, 2011 at 4:46 pm
Brother Kaleem,
You’re basically saying that not all men care for hoor? Also, you asked Amira how she will know who her brother or father is in Jannah? Sorry, just trying to understand bro.
August 18th, 2011 at 4:54 pm
Yes I did your post kaleem. Re-read Aisha reply your self-study post (the 7th comment). There’s more to being the most beautiful.
August 18th, 2011 at 4:57 pm
Bro Kaleem I’m not assuming they were told there were no hoors. I believe they exist but I’m sure rasulallah saw would have told them something to ease them if they did ask.
And you keep emphasising the beauty of us compared to hoors. Frankly, I don’t actually care whether I look better or not. Scholars always say that to us which proves most brothers are visual. Well beauty isn’t just skin deep. My husband shouldn’t choose me over them because I look good; he should choose me because he loves me. The reason for you wanting the hoor al ayn is lust. I’m not saying your love won’t grow, I’m just saying thats why they’re initially there
August 18th, 2011 at 4:57 pm
But there’s also that Hadith “jinn for jinns, humans for humans”
Nadia, two wives doesn’t necessarily mean two women. It’s an old Arabic idiom. Why would Allah discriminate and give more to one gender?
August 18th, 2011 at 5:04 pm
Oh yes, I read that in the link. So if it doesn’t mean 2 women, what does it mean?
I guess it would help to know the Arabic language..unfortunately I do not
August 18th, 2011 at 5:08 pm
It means wife and husband.
Two fathers = father and mother
Two marwas= the hills saga and marwa
Two moons = sun and moon
See the connection?
August 18th, 2011 at 5:09 pm
Safa*** not saga.
August 18th, 2011 at 5:14 pm
But that doesn’t make sense
Each man who enters jannah shall receive a husband and a wife..?
August 18th, 2011 at 5:26 pm
“every person will have 2 wives.” ‘Every person’ probably means both genders. The female will have husnad and the husband will have a wife. We’d have to understand Arabic to fully understand this.
August 18th, 2011 at 5:34 pm
@Sister Aisha,
I thought you are over this issue but unfortunately I am wrong. OK.
Yes, we do care for hoor but if hoor is something like the women of this world then I guess one will be enough FOR SOME CERTAIN REASONS not that we don’t like more women.The reason I asked Amira about brother and other manly worldly relationships is that how is she going to remember/know who was her father, brother, son etc etc. Again, going back to same point of Alam-e-Arwah.
@THERE IS MORE TO BE BEAUTIFUL. Sister, I don’t know where you live but relationships like marriage are not always durable no matter how much love and understanding couple have. Statement such as LOVE CONQOURS ALL doesn’t work always or hold true. Am I right? Look around you; you will find many examples.
Yet another assumption you made THEY WERE TOLD. Subhan Allah, you are running away from the fact that there are women who simply don’t care about men/husbands. Their sole purpose in this world is to do good deeds and reach Jannah.
*How about single Mums (Muslims) and divorced, separated Muslim women whose husbands have again gotten married but they are still single?
*What about the revert sisters who are coming to the fold of Islam (7 out of 10 converts/reverts are women)? Do they also come to marry Muslim husband to claim them in Jannah?
Are they not women or what; do they don’t think about these things or men having more rights in this world (if you think as a human without any gender bias then we are equal; you don’t have to read Quran, hadith or Sunnah JUST PLAIN LOGIC).
When a woman becomes mother, all her past sins are washed and she becomes like a born again women without any sins except Shirk off course.
The thing you sisters have mentioned in almost all the post about men being shallow to go for beauty or young girls is well proven by science (there is a documentary on MSN lifestyle which proves that). And also why Holy Prophet (PBUH) advised to marry young and virgin girls who can bear healthy child and are more able to bear the children as compared to older women. The medical reason is that as a women ages; her chances of falling pregnant get slimmer and also if she even gets pregnant then their are more chances of her having a mis-carriage.
Also Nadia, I don’t believe that only men are sexual, visual or simple feel horny. These are just things made up to create the divide in the Ummah on the basis of gender AND UNFORTUNATELY IT’S WORKING WELL. I have already spoken about why men choose good looking, young women for marriage if that is a problem even after me discussing so much then what can I say except I will pray for you and others in the same predicament. Isn’t attraction a reason for a man to choose his wife as advised to us by deen. Point is that if a brother talks about attraction he is shallow and if a sister talks about attraction she is fine. Subhan Allah.
Again, I hope I didn’t come as someone defending men but just wanted to prove the point with simple logic, sense. I hope I didn’t offend my little sisi’s. May Allah (swt) help us all and bless us with righteous spouses who we can be with in Jannah as well. (Amin)
Wasalam,
August 18th, 2011 at 5:50 pm
Kaleem,
When I said there’s more to beauty, I did not mean LIBE CONQUERS ALL.
And I don’t believe men and women are totally equal in this world. Allah said that he made one more superior than the other.
And like you said before, WHY WOULD ALLAH DISCRIMNATE? I get it if he does it here on earth bc there is temptation caused by devil, but it doesn’t make sense that some temptation caused by devil carries on into Jannat.
August 18th, 2011 at 5:51 pm
Love** not libe
August 18th, 2011 at 5:53 pm
As for the women who don’t care, GOOD FOR THEM. But there women who do. It there were alien hoors, I would fell there was no justice but god is the most justice so why would he do that to me?
August 18th, 2011 at 6:06 pm
If there were**
when I say me, I mean other women who feel the same way.
August 18th, 2011 at 6:22 pm
@Sister Amira,
OK, so now another topic. Men and women are not equal. Sister, again I would say that it wasn’t on the basis of gender. It was because we are protector of women as our wives, daughters, sisters and mothers. Your sense of SUPERIORITY is different from what it means in Quran, Sunnah and Hadith. Yes, there are things where men are superior like in physical strength which again works for woman as they are being protected. I thought here we were discussing hoor and stuff etc etc.
The idea of hoor is also to keep men away from haram around them. Wouldn’t you suffer as daughter, sister, mother or wife if your father, brother, son or husband had haram relationships? You may turn around and say that women could do the same why are they not told to stay away from such things to be rewarded with hoors? Answer is that woman in general like to have a family with one husband, have kids and live in peace unlike men who like to involve into haram activities even after marriage and ruin their worldly relationships and Akhirah. It’s again a matter of how we are wired sister. Institute of polygamy which is abused a lot is to protect women not to fulfil sexual desires of men.
As per your last comment;
“THERE ARE WOMEN WHO ARE NOT BOTHERED ABOUT HOORS AND YOU DON’T CARE”.
Don’t want to sound harsh or rude but I will marry a girl who is ugly, poor and less desirable but is not bothered with this hoor thing rather than MARRYING SOMEONE WHO THINKS ABOUT HOORS 24/7/365 EVEN IF SHE WAS CROWNED MISS WORLD/UNIVERSE AND IS RICH, INTELLIGENT, EDUCATED, CARING, LOVING AND HAS EVERYTHING ANYONE CAN DESIRE IN A WOMEN. Life is too short to live with someone who makes it MORE DIFFICULT then it already is:)
If you don’t believe me when I say that this bothers husbands a lot then do some search yourself.
Wasaalm.
August 18th, 2011 at 6:30 pm
Bro Kaleem
I don’t really understand the point your making by saying marriage isn’t always durable. Are you saying the solution to that is getting more wives? It takes two to tango..if marriages fail, its the fault of both, but with understanding, you can work it out.
And if you think I’m making assumptions you have clearly not read what I had to say properly.
And the prophet saw may have advised that, but how many men marry young girls for that reason. You hear so many stories of men leaving their wives for younger women.
And I never said that only men were lust driven. Women are too but most are to a lesser extent, and its scientifically proven. And besides lust, women feel more emotion than men which is probably why you find it hard to understand.
Seriously, if you were a girl for a day, I bet you’d backtrack what you’ve written.
To be honest though, I didn’t quite catch your point..we’re going off topic.
All I ask for is a humble man with humble desires. They do exist and I’m not asking for much. And I don’t care what he looks like
August 18th, 2011 at 6:37 pm
So you’re saying women don’t have sexual desires either? I have absolutely no motivation in not committing zina except for not going to hell. Whereas men on the otherhand do. Also, women are capable of ruining a family too. If I wanted I could go have sex with all the guys I found attractive since I have no motivation, like you said. Don’t think we don’t go through sexual temptation. We do.
WTH. I did not say that. I said that if they don’t care for hoors, good for them. I never said ‘you don’t care’.
August 18th, 2011 at 6:38 pm
and from your last comment, of course you don’t care if shes ugly..you’re getting ‘fair maidens’ in jannah and it seems like you mean to say you’d marry anyone, as long as they let you get your hoors after. Sorry if that sounded rude. I don’t mea to be
August 18th, 2011 at 6:39 pm
*mean
August 18th, 2011 at 6:43 pm
Of course, you would care if the best wife a man would have worried about hoors. As long as he didn’t come in the way of getting your hoors.
August 18th, 2011 at 6:44 pm
Lol Nadia, took the words right out of my mouth.
August 18th, 2011 at 6:49 pm
lol well we must share a similar opinion and think alike. :p
I should get some sleep now; suhoor is less than an hour away. Masalaam
August 18th, 2011 at 6:53 pm
btw brother Kaleem, what you proved from that statement is that you’re more focused on shagging hoors than loving your dear wife, the opposite od what I want..no offense
August 18th, 2011 at 7:19 pm
Guys, stop it. Brother Kaleem, I don’t understand you. If this bothers you so much, please stop reading it. Read what I’ve written to sisters Amira and Nadia–comment 58. Alhamdulilah I know there are guys out there who are not like that. Maybe all the men of the world are, but I know one guy who is not like that, for sure. You say these girls will drive their husbands crazy? Maybe they are trying to figure this out so that they can finally understand it, or just get over it by the time they are married. You are just making things worse by reprimanding them for being worried. If these girls did NOT care about their deen, they would not waste their time trying to figure this out, brother, they would be like other 16 year olds their age and would be busy with makeup, guys, and sex instead of trying to understand their deen.
August 18th, 2011 at 7:24 pm
As for men taking part in haram things, lots of men do it regardless of the idea of hoor so it obviously does not matter. Point is bro, the issue is if 1-Allah really rewards men with this, and 2-whether men can reject them if they want. Allahu alam, I already said I am giving up on this but if I can find new things about it, why not?
August 18th, 2011 at 8:13 pm
@Nadia and Amira,
Sorry, I give up. I should have realised that this is a teens forum. The reason I came here to give you all a male point of view and also I liked some of the posts of Aisha.
@Amira, what is stopping you from acting upon your desires to commit whatever haram you want to is just HELL. For me it’s logical and love toward my creator. Logical in the sense that it makes life a lot easier if we don’t follow shitaan in this world. I am not bothered about hoors or Jannat. I WANT TO SEE ALLAH (SWT) ON THE DAY OF JUDGEMENT WITHOUT BEING HYPOCRITE OR COMMITING SINS. Again a matter of COMMON SENSE and LOGIC over judgement and reward in this world and hereafter.
You are seriously all over the place and have no clue what you talking about. Look at how interpreted what I wrote about polygamous marriages. And you thought I take as a solution to problems in marriage, Subhan Allah.
I am not here to comment upon men who leave their wives for younger girls and I suggest that you should also look beyond this issue as their could be other reasons too except lust.
NO I WON’T TAKE BACK WHAT I WROTE IF I WAS A GIRL FOR 1 DAY OR WHOLE LIFE however, I would always pray or make dua to Allah (swt) to give me understanding, knowledge and common sense so that I do good deeds to reach Jannah first. LIFE DOESN’T END ON HUSBAND OR WIFE. And also to learn the deen myself rather than following so called scholars.
Haha, this makes me laugh when you say; I don’t care what he looks like. Seriously? And by humble desires I am 110% sure someone who doesn’t desire Hoors.
Also, I didn’t say that I will marry an ugly woman because I will have hoors in Jannah. I am a normal man and I do like to get married to someone who I am attracted to. No, I used to be very picky until I started practising my religion; even a good looking girl was nothing for me to be honest (yes, back in the days when I was shallow). How can a wife stop me from or come in my way of having hoor? haha what a joke sweet sister:)What authority a wife have to stop her husband from having a hoor? except the love, care and understanding they both have.
Then you go on to say to Amira,
“lol well we must share a similar opinion and think alike. :p”
May I suggest that you both read my comments again as maybe maybe you could see the point I was trying to make.
@Nadia:
Thanks Allah that I did not refer to as sister (if I did I apologise) because my sister would never use a word such as s******g in conversation with any man. Besides, if I was offered the hoor in Jannah then I will refuse them and say I will like to have my wife as she was comfort, coolness of my life in the world, however I would offer those hoors to your husband (my bro in law) to have more fun:) Did I forget to say; NO OFFENSE.
I APOLOGISE IF I OFFENDED ANYONE
Wasalam.
August 18th, 2011 at 8:27 pm
Bro Kaleem, if you’re reading this I’m really sorry about what I said and whether it offended you. I’m really tired and I was getting a little impatient.
But generally what Aisha is saying is right. If you could think in our POV for a minute, if you had someone you deeply and truly loved in the arms of someone else, wouldn’t it hurt you? And not just one time, but over and over and over again..
And you may think 16 is young..but it’s not really. It’s marriageable age and like Aisha said, I want to get it sorted before I get married. I don’t want to have doubts about the person I marry. And it’s not just the case of us being to young, but it’s not an easy topic to let go of. It takes time for your imaan to heal again and by talking to these girls has made me feel a lot better.
August 18th, 2011 at 8:33 pm
I never usually use words as such; I was just cranky..and do what you want..your affairs don’t concern me so I’ll just keep out of your business even if you decide not to keep out of mine…end of
August 18th, 2011 at 9:22 pm
Sisters, brother, LOL this is getting way too personal! Though what you said was funny brother Kaleem, about passing your hoor onto one of these sisters’ husband, but it is insensitive to her!! Anyway, stop arguing it is getting you all nowhere! I understand all three of you, but I am sorry I can’t help.
August 19th, 2011 at 7:36 pm
Where’d everyone go? Lol
August 19th, 2011 at 8:57 pm
Nothing seems to make sense anymore…
August 19th, 2011 at 9:04 pm
Aw.. I’m sorry. I don’t know what to say :’/
August 19th, 2011 at 9:13 pm
There’s like a missing puzzle piece and only Allah has it.
What I think I’m going to try to do is accept both sides of the story: hoors are us and hoors are something else. It could be either. I don’t want to ruin my hereafter just in case it turns out to be us. If it isn’t, well I guess it won’t matter once I’m there.
August 19th, 2011 at 9:21 pm
I guess that is the most logical thing to do anyway. Hopefully you marry a guy who has similar views as you
August 19th, 2011 at 10:00 pm
Sister Aisha,
Please could you kindly remove all my comments under this post.(including this last one as well)
Also, I apologise as I also got carried away a bit yesterday.
@Amira and Nadia,
Please forgive me in this month of forgiveness as I am certainly sure that it must have hurt you both.
May Allah (swt) help us all reach our goals in this world and hereafter. Amin.
Wasalam,
August 19th, 2011 at 11:04 pm
You want to remove your first post as well? I’d have to ask another sister to do so as I do not have access to it. I am glad you have realized though
August 20th, 2011 at 11:38 am
Sorry I was a bit busy today. I think I should too delete any comments that caused offense..
And sorry brother Kaleem, I think I must’ve taken all anger I had over this topic out on you which was wrong
August 20th, 2011 at 3:41 pm
Yes sister Aisha Please remove all as it didn’t serve the purpose so no point having them up there when no one can see the logic. Also, I should never have commented in the first place and now realised that I wasted my time.
@Nadia, don’t worry, it’s ok little sister. I came here to show you lot some hope that not all men are perverts looking to bag as many women as they can under the label of polygamy or scan every scantity dressed woman from top to bottom. However, I can see that I have badly failed myself.
Also, I take my hoors back haha lols. I couldn’t sleep last night hehe. Mainly thinking that it must have hurt you and other sisters a lot . Now, what title do you have for me? A pervert if I choose to ask for them to be returned:).
If I don’t then that will be hurtful too as my little sister will curse me:).
Any ways jokes aside; Aisha this issue is not age related or has anything to do with a women being single, married, divorced, widowed or annulled. It bugs every woman and I DO UNDERSTAND THAT. Their are women who have made their husband’s lives a living hell and this question is on their mind 24/7. Now, you tell me; if any man is put through all this every day; I am sure his reserve of patience will soon run out after he has tried everything to assure his wife.
From women’s point of view; you girls are very young and don’t realise how difficult married life is. How many women you know who are living with their husbands and are treated fairly?
It’s not a secret that Muslim women are physically, emotionally and psychologically tortured/abused, cheated upon, not given their Allah gifted rights, their every day needs/necessities are ignored. DO YOU THINK SUCH WOMEN WILL WANT THEIR HUSBANDS IN THE JANNAH AFTER LIVING IN THAT TOXIC RELATIONSHIP FOR 10/20/30 YEARS OR OVER?
I know a lot of women who would have left their husbands a long time ago if they were given any escape route or a better option/choice.
They seriously have no choice due to reasons such as
1- Having children with that husband who is reluctant to give her custody.
2- They way our society looks upon at divorced, separated women and they have hard time getting married again. After all they do not wish to remain single and have every right to enjoy their life of companionship.
3- Saving family name in society or culture. Especially if they have un-married sisters who will have tough time to attract suitable proposals due to their sister being divorced/separated/annulled.
4- Financial problems, when they don’t have a steady job to provide for themselves of don’t have a degree or skill to find one.
Sister, we need to be realistic, logical and pessimistic at the same time. Off course their are brothers out their who treat their wives well but they are far and few and mostly taken lols. I am not trying to say that this isn’t an issue but all I am trying to say is that a woman should get over this idea before marriage rather than after marriage because it is more likely to cause extra strain in the marriage especially when either or both sides are not patient. This is one of the reason so many marriages fail within 6 months to 5 years time span. I won’t want to bring any more strain in marriage knowing that we are still adjusting to each other personality, behaviour and day to day practices.
In general, I wish their were mature women in all of you sister’s life who could tell you about their own experiences to how they coped with this issue rather then telling you to Shut up (as in the case of Nadia). This is the problem in our society as a whole.
Any ways, it was good talking to you sisters and please get over this issue. I like the fact that you are kind of accepting of this idea (especially I can see Aisha is moving on):). Sisters, you can search for the truth side by side but at the same time don’t forget that our purpose is to reach Jannah. What will be their will be dealt with then:)
Aisha, I didn’t know that you are pukhton:) Sunga chaal dai?
Any ways, Aisha please, please delete all these comments under my name.
Wasalam,
Good night:)
August 20th, 2011 at 4:18 pm
haha I’m not going to label you a pervert, especially in Laylat Al Qadr :p
I know you’ll treat all your wives with dignity: )
It’s your choice if you want them..I’m not going to stop you from taking a reward Allah has given you. That’s between you and Him.
And now I think about it..some women may drive their husbands to the Hoors. More women will be in Hell than men..and why is this? Because they are ungrateful to their husbands and there husbands may be driven to desire women who aren’t like this, and whose love is pure and so the women can’t complain if they do this. And though his wife will be more beautiful he may still desire the hoors because he may think his wife’s attitude will still be the same in Jannah. He has never met the hoors and they are described so beautifully that he feels he wants them because they wouldn’t nag like his wife. So I guess the reason men want them may not just be lust, but love.
But I like the idea of hoors being a reward. This seems logical to me. Rewards are for someone who has done well but they don’t necessarily have to be accepted if you don’t want them.
Someone once told me Allah rewards people according to their desire..and so many men will be rewarded with hoors. However, the desire for hoors is not present in every single man and Allah knows this and so them getting only their wife- if that is what they desire – is a reward in itself. I sure hope this person is right! InshAllah
Salaam
August 20th, 2011 at 4:26 pm
Brother Kaleem, your posts were helpful.. But I will ask sister Sommaya if it is possible for her to remove it inshallah. You know I am pashtana from my other article? I am assuming you read it. Jazak Allah if you did, and I actually think some of your posts will help future readers..
August 20th, 2011 at 4:39 pm
Oh and one last thing. Though other says they shall be given the strength of 100 men, it does not explicitly say they will be given the desire/drive of 100 men.
And so if your husband is righteous, he will not be attracted to someone based on just their looks. If he is humble and you serve him well, then you will be the single rose in a garden of daisies
He wouldn’t even lay eyes on the other flowers..
August 20th, 2011 at 4:48 pm
Aisha, I was getting this feeling that I have hurt and in my mind I was thinking this little girl crying ( I swear I had this thought/idea write after I wrote my last post 134) which made me shiver and request you to delete.
Starting point was when Nadia was kind of attacking me along with Amira “team up” hehe.
Any way, I will leave you with the number of posts I think are hurtful or hateful. Please don’t delay and delete them ASAP.
They are 106, 118, 123, 134.
All I wanted to give this sisters some hope. Look my last post before this war of words was 32. Now imagine I was subscribed to this post and wanted to comfort these sisters so I came back; that’s all. Other wise I don’t find enough time because I myself am part of a project:)
One more point I wanted to make is that please sisters always make sure the kind of website you are using because their is a lot of fitnah. Some people are trying to change Quran (Astaghfirullah) or change hadith or mention a part of it.
For instance, I will write the whole Hadith here which was posted half on this forum; posted in this thread of comments. It was to prevent polygamy but it wasn’t posted complete to give the real reason for Holy Prophet (PBUH) not allowing Hazrat Ali (RA) to take another wife.
http://www.answeringchristianity.com/pious_woman.pdf
“In explanation of the hadeeth narrated by Al-Miswar bin Makhrama:
“I heard Allah’s Apostle who was on the pulpit, saying, ‘Banu Hisham bin Al-Mughira have requested me to allow them to marry their daughter to Ali bin Abu Talib, but I don’t give permission, and will not give permission unless ‘Ali bin Abi Talib divorces my daughter in order to marry their daughter, because Fatima is a part of my body, and I hate what she hates to see, and what hurts her, hurts me.’” [Saheeh al-Bukhaari, Vol. 7, Book 62 (Book of Marriage), Hadeeth No. 4887]
Narrated from Ali ibn al-Husayn:
“Ali demanded the hand of the daughter of Abu Jahl. Fatimah heard of this and went to Allah’s Messenger saying, ‘Your people think that you do not become angry for the sake of your daughters as `Ali now is going to marry the daughter of Abu Jahl.’
On that, the Messenger got up and after his recitation of Tashahud (witnessing the oneness of the Creator and the prophethood of His Final Messenger) I heard him saying, ‘I married one of my daughters (Zainab) to Abu Al-`Aas ibn Ar-Rabi` before Islam and he proved truthful in whatever he said to me. No doubt Fatimah is part of me; I hate to see her troubled. By Allah, the daughter of Allah’s Messenger and the daughter of Allah’s enemy cannot be the wives of one man.’” [Saheeh al-Bukhaari, Vol. 4, Book 53 (Book of One-Fifth of War Booty), Hadeeth No. 2900]
This hadith talks about the incident of `Ali wanting to marry the daughter of Abu Jahl, the bitterest enemy of Allah and His Messenger. Abu Jahl remained a kaafir ’til his death. He humiliated the Prophet and his Companions and tortured them; he also attempted the life of the Prophet many times.
Abu Jahl was finally killed by the Believers in the Battle of Badr long before `Ali proposed to marry his daughter. Thus, it becomes evident that the Prophet’s justification of his disapproval of that marriage was not because he discouraged polygyny, as he himself was the best of examples and had multiple wives, but because of the shameful family history of the bride, which would definitely trouble his beloved daughter.
also this explanation
This hadeeth is better explained in same Sahih when the following part was said before the above. He – ??? ???? ???? ???? – said: “Indeed, I shall never make what is lawful unlawful and shall not make what is unlawful as lawful but by allah the daughter of Messenger of Allah shall not be with the daughter of Allah’s enemy”
This proves:
1. He never obligated Ali bin abi Talib – May Allah be pleased with him – not to marry another one. That is why Ali honored his relationship with the Prophet by honoring his daughter
2. The reason why he denied this act is not because pologymy but because this act hurt Fatima – May allah be plaesed with her – and hence that means to hurt the Prophet. So, since we are not allowed to hurt the Prophet this becomes a different case
3. The Prophet acknowledged that this lawful however he disliked it at this particular case due what it caused him.
4. The main reason of dispute is the fact that the other woman is the daughter of Allah’s enemy.
You see sister, I am not against discussing these issues but I am afraid we might end up believing them. (Please don’t take it as I am advocating for POLYGAMY). Life is much easier with one wife lols; after all many women will make their husband’s life a living hell besides he already has to deal with mother-in-law/wife everyday encounters:) hehe
I hope you all understand.
Wasalam,
Kaleem Satti.
August 20th, 2011 at 5:11 pm
Salams everyone. I got Aisha’s message, just want to double check who wants what removed. I have admin powers here, as well as the site creator, Wael.
August 20th, 2011 at 5:18 pm
salams sister Sommaya, please delete posts 106, 118, 123, 134 because I think they were kind of hurtful and this 152, 143, 146 as well. Jazak Allah:)
August 20th, 2011 at 5:31 pm
I want to delete 126, 131 &136
When I first commented I didn’t intend to offend anyone so I think it will be best to remove them
August 20th, 2011 at 9:49 pm
I guess delete whatever seems like a response to brother kaleem’s arguement..there’s too many to count. Sorry brother Kaleem if we had said anything hurtful but youdo understand how…stressful (can’t find a better word for it) this topic is for women and possibly men.
I agree with Nadia. Although I still don’t like the idea of hoors, I guess it’s a way to motivate women as well. A lot of women won’t like the idea of hoors and won’t like to imagina their husbands with them. According to the Hadith about umm salamah asking who’s better, we women will be better and more superior. I know it doesn’t seem like a motivator but I guess it is. We’ll understand to that we need to act better towards our husbands, do our duties as Muslims, and get a place in Jannat. In jannat, your husband might even care about hoors and probably will just look at you and love you.
Again, I still think something’s missing in this topic. I honestly can see both sides of the issue: hoors being us and not being us. Allah has only given us little knowledge and Maybe this issue is the test for women. Theres this one Hadith(dont know if its weak or not) that said “I haven’t given a harder temptation to men than woman.”
Everyone needs to know that some hadiths are weak and some aren’t. We’ll never know in this life which ones are truly right or wrong. Only Allah knows. Don’t let one Hadith that sounds off destroy your imaan. And remember, Allah will never be unjust to you, whether you are man or woman. Always remind yourself of this.
August 20th, 2011 at 11:07 pm
Might not even care***
Also, when Allah describes their beauty, I think it’s to remind how beautiful they are and how much better we will be.
August 21st, 2011 at 12:17 am
I don’t mean to burst your bubble, but what does their beauty have to do with us, or how does it remind men of how much better we will be?
August 21st, 2011 at 2:11 am
Good point. Yes, men do seem to Praise the hoors beauty and when they remind they wives that they’ll be more beautiful thinking it’ll shut them up, but they go back to praising the hoors beauty. I think that’s stupid. By men I don’t mean all of them. I’m not really sure. As I said before, theres something missing, a point or concept that I’m not getting or Allah is purposely hiding from us to test our faith.. Possibly, the Hadith about how we’re better COULD be a fabrication just to make us feel better and obviously it doesn’t. I don’t know for sure but with common logic, it’s obvious with or w/o Hadith we’d be better because of what we did for Allah. Allah wouldn’t make a new creation automatically better than us. Again, we as humans have very little knowledge.
August 21st, 2011 at 10:19 am
Great article… just the sort a thing i needed to read! keep it up Aisha!
August 21st, 2011 at 10:27 am
Okay this might be difficult, the comments are not numbered when I’m on the dashboard, it might take me a while to sort them all out.
August 21st, 2011 at 3:52 pm
@Somayya,
I don’t know but I can post here the Date and time of the posts that I want to delete. I guess that might help you?
Here it goes.
1- 18th August 2011 4:15pm.
2- 18th August 2011 4:40pm.
3- 18th August 2011 5:34pm.
4- 18th August 2011 6:22pm.
5- 18th August 2011 8:13pm.
6- 19th August 2011 10:00pm.
7- 20th August 2011 3:41pm.
I hope it helps sister and please take them as soon as you can.
@Aisha, I have not a single word of Pashto for a long time lols and I miss that a lot:), also it is more funny to hear pashto from someone who wasn’t born in the west; funny/cute accent:)
Wasaalam,
August 21st, 2011 at 5:17 pm
Lol, where are you from? My accent is not that bad!
September 8th, 2011 at 9:22 am
Salams and belated Happy Eid sisters:)
@Aisha; I wish to remain anonymous if you don’t mind but I am close to Pashtoons:)
Sister Sumaya and Aisha,
How much time you sisters need to remove my comments? Please try to understand; I don’t know what else to provide you sisters with and DON’T know how to put it more simply and easily so that you understand that I don’t like them up here.
I have been requesting this for weeks now but to no avail:(.
Delete them for Allah sake.
Thanks.
September 9th, 2011 at 10:37 pm
Wa alaikum as salaam.
Perhaps I was not clear enough. I do not have the ability to delete comments and sister Somaya said it would take her some time.
September 10th, 2011 at 12:01 pm
Subhan Allah, What more I can say?
September 10th, 2011 at 12:15 pm
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November 18th, 2011 at 8:04 am
Assalamu aleikum my dear sisters,
I’m very glad that I came across this article! I’m a 20-year-old converted sister (I’m Muslim for almost 2 years now Alhamdulillah) and I am married since almost 11 months.
I heard about hoor al ayn and sharing your husband with them in Jannah, when I was married only 2 or 3 months. Since that time I was really hurt and got obsessed with this subject. I spent many, many hours on the internet researching the same types of questions that were discussed here. However, on the internet I never found a trustworthy answer to these questions and (most important!) a permanent solution for my weakened imaan and my lost desire for Paradise. The only thing I found was some relieve, because I discovered that I am far not the only sister who worries about this and whose imaan has weakened because of this.
ALHAMDULILLAH, my husband (who is also a convert!) is one of the few man who does NOT desire the hoor al ayn and who would like to be in Jannah with only me as his wife (*please sisters, say “Masha’Allah” before he will change his mind! :p)
I really need his confirmations and I ask for it very often. An example of our communication:
husband: “I want to go to Paradise with you insha’Allah!”
“And when there are hoor al ayn as servants, they may only clean up our castle, wearing niqaab so you won’t be able to see them!”
me: “Only with me?”
husband: “Yes, only you”
me: “No hoor al ayn?”
husband: “No, just you:)!”
me:
husband *HAHAHAHAHA*
Unfortunately things like this did not prevent some heavy arguments he and I got about this topic (not very often, but every little argument about THIS topic is 1 too much). Even last week when I was very emotional and we got an argument about hoor al ayn, I cried as if someone dear had just passed away (I almost scared myself!), and I didn’t want him to comfort or to hug me when I cried (also because we were in a fight) I could only cry and shout “No, leave me alone! I don’t have you! I have NOBODY!!” How I wished at that moment that I was a stone or some other object that would not have these worries about sharing your husband, sharing your one true love! At times I even wished that I was never married and that I wouldn’t marry again if I knew this before! Because I wouldn’t bother to live with the idea of sharing my husband with hoor al ayn, if I would choose to never have a husband on this Dunya!
I’m glad that most of the time my husband rather comforts me about this topic by saying sweet things and promising me that he does not want them. Also this doesn’t prevent me from imagining my husband being with hoor al ayn in a tent and having intercourse with them, whenever I think of Paradise! Like most of you, I also don’t understand why a man would have intercourse with hoor al ayn or why he would even like to spend time with them, if he has the opportunity to be with his WIFE, who would be the BEST for him! I also don’t understand why Allah SWT has Created hoor al ayn as a reward for men, while it feels as a punishment here on this Dunya for ME and sisters who feel the same like me. Also I shouldn’t have read the (weak) hadiths (also mentioned above!) about hoor al ayn who will curse women who annoy their husband. This made me think of them every time when I had an argument with my husband or when he’s angry with me, and then I automatically think “Oh, are you hoors cursing me now!? Are you now saying “Soon he will come to us.”? And even though this is a weak hadith, I took it for real and with my angry heart I already cursed them and thought “You don’t even know my husband and how much HE is annoying me sometimes! And don’t you ever touch him, he’s MINE!” *deep sigh*
We can go on and on and on… being angry at the hoor al ayn, questioning ourselves if, and why they exist, wishing that our question will be answered positively and that we will have the chance to not share our husband with them. (But personally this doesn’t sound logic to me; because probably they would not exist as perhaps 9 out of 10 women would rather have their husbands for themselves than sharing them with the hoor!) So my conclusion is:
Realizing that the majority of scholars confirm their existence, there’s a great chance that they do exist and that we will have to share our husband’s love and bed with them:(.
Things that help me to accept this idea:
- my husband’s sweet words and his desire to have only me as his wife forever
- the thought that I’m not the only sister, and that my husband is not the only brother, who would deal with hoor al ayn but ALL Muslims who will enter Paradise will deal with them (so I’m not the only one, but EVERYONE would face this “fact”)
- Remembering the Prophet (SAWS) his dearest wife Aisha (RA), who was very jealous too and who will be in Jannah insha’Allah with the Prohpet SAWS as her husband and she will also have to share him with her co-wives and possibly a bunch of hoor al ayn
- Asking Allah SWT to grant me and my loved ones Paradise, asking Him to forgive me and sisters like me for wrong thoughts or spoken words about this hoor al ayn-topic, and guiding us and not let (them) be a reason for us to enter HELL instead of Paradise!
I think it’s funny how these things help me that I came up myself, and NOT that what all scholars say to ‘relax’ worried sisters: “there will be no jealousy in Jannah.” “You will be more beautiful!”
Things like that only cause more confusion and don’t help me to feel better…
May Allah grant us the BEST (whatever that may be), and may He reward us for our patience with this subject and for the pain we feel about this! And *hopefully* may He reward us with being in Paradise with our husband alone, as in fairytales, so that we can live with our husbands happily ever after as a charming prince and a beautiful princess wo are deeply in love eternally, insha’Allah!
November 18th, 2011 at 7:34 pm
Assalamu Alaikum Maryam,
Your comment is beautiful. This is exactly how I have been feeling the past few years. It still kills me deep down though I try to avoid thinking of it, but word and duas for Paradise automatically trigger that image of tents and hoor al ayn in my mind.
November 20th, 2011 at 2:09 pm
First of all, I haven’t read your entire post, but thought I’d post a couple of my opinions on this subject. Although I’m a guy I too struggled with this concept, because:
(a) I find the idea of discussing intimacy and issues pertaining to it very embarrassing. So when I read things like Allah swt will reward a man who controls his anger with a Hoor of his choice, I felt strange and very embarrassed. Unfortunately the more I thought about it the stranger this idea of receiving hoors in front of everyone started to seem. Another issue I have is that while, one is being intimate with ones wife or hoor, Allah is all knowing and Allah will know whats going on. This idea killed me inside. In fact I’m having trouble saying ‘yes’ to getting married because of this. The thought of being intimate just makes me feel averted.
(b) Shaitaan also started to make me feel jealous of hoors! I know it sounds retarded, but the idea was that; we do all this hard work in this duniya to get to jannah, but hoors get there without having worked for it. Its like a free pass. This issue troubled me the most.
May Allah forgive me for even mentioning my waswaas, but I just had to let it out somewhere. When people close to me hear these ideas, they think I’m crazy. Since generally hoors are supposed to motivate men to do good for jannah. I honestly don’t know how to tackle this problem, but i’m looking forward to reading this post.
November 20th, 2011 at 2:29 pm
For what its worth, I’d like to say something else. I’m not sure if this comment is going to be helpful, but here goes nothing.
Sisters who are troubled by hoor al ayns mainly complain about having to share their husband with someone else. While I obviously cannot understand how women feel about this subject, what I can say is this: If possible, why don’t women try to not make their husband such a central figure in their lives. What I mean to say is that don’t be emotionally dependent on your husband to that degree where you feel you need him to be focused on only you. Your happiness does not depend on getting your husbands full dedication and attention at all times.
This isn’t to say you should tolerate a cheating scumbag, but what I mean to say is that you should have emotional independence from your husband to a certain degree. Sorta have that attitude that your husband isn’t the center of your world, and while he’s off with some hoor al ayn, you’ll be off enjoying something your husband might not have in paradise and not be the least bit bothered by his activities.
Again, I’m not sure if I’ve managed to express by point sucessfully.
November 21st, 2011 at 6:59 am
Assalamu Alaikum, brothers and sisters
I’m really glad to see this article, and all the comments.
I would like to say to all my sisters in this thread that, yes, you are absolutely right. Not all men are same about the issue regarding hoor-al-ayns. I’m really worried and stressed over the fact that why will I be given hoors when I can’t even imagine my paradise with only my wife alone. Well, I’m not married yet. Still studying. But my parents have already found the girl for me, whom I will get married soon, InshaAllah. We love each other so much, that even words can describe our feelings for each other. I will literally die without her, and she will, too. Everytime after I pray, I recite duas and tell Allah to give us (me and my future wife) jannah, where she will be my ONLY wife, and I will be her ONLY husband. But whenever I think about the hoors of jannah, I become very sad. And I wish hoors to be the people of this earth recreated, (like all of you sisters wish), and not any different creation. I couldn’t eat and sleep for days when I kept thinking about the hoors. I was extremely sad. I still Am. That’s why, now, I try not to let the thoughts of hoors come into my mind. Whenever these thoughts come, I say to myself “I trust Allah. No matter what scholars say, ONLY Allah knows the best. And Allah knows what’s in our heart. If hoors were meant to cause stress on people’s heart, then it shouldn’t be a reward. Therefore, something must be wrong along the line of interpretations by the scholars. And Allah knows the best”.
Please note: Allah said in the Noble Quran verse 6:112 – “And similarly we have appointed enemies for every prophet, devils from men and jinns, one aspires the other with fabrications to decieve; and had your Lord willed they would not do so, therefore leave them with their fabrications.
This proves that false hadeeths was already prophesied by Allah in the Quran.
So, please, don’t stress over the hadeeths that say about the 72 virgins. If you know the history of hadeeths, like how hadeeths developed, you won’t worry much about these sort of hadeeths.
The heaven described by the Holy Quran is not some great sexual orgy of Muslim men chasing virgins. We must understand by them [women] being described as virgins in heaven only means they are pure women and untouched by filth, but it has nothing to do with sex. InshAllah, we will only have the one we love in this world as our wife/husband, and others would be our pure companions, i.e. friends
November 21st, 2011 at 11:37 am
randomguy, I don’t think your issues have anything to do with the hoor al-ayn. I think you have personal issues around shame and intimacy. The fact that you would avoid marriage because of fear of physical contact is telling and troubling. I think you need some counseling to find out what is going on with you. You may also have some issues in your past that need to be resolved.
November 21st, 2011 at 12:16 pm
@ wael, yes you’re right. Since the internet is anonymous, I don’t mind saying this, but I was molested as a child. This still doesn’t explain why I’d be jealous of hoors getting into heaven without any problems. Anyway, I’ve stopped thinking about the hoor issue, and have decided to put my trust in Allah. The more I think about it the more troubled I get, and up until now every time in any other aspect of my life when I’ve put my trust in Allah things have worked out for the best. I do wish however, I could be normal and appreciate the hoors like most other men seem to.
November 21st, 2011 at 3:19 pm
Randomguy–I see what you are saying about women being not necessarily detached from their husbands, but a little less dependent on them. However, if women were to be this way, then they would be considered “heartless,” “callous” or too preoccupied with other things. On one hand the Quran and Islam promote love and sweetness between spouses, and on one hand I’ve also previously thought about what you’ve said. It may seem good on paper, but in reality, it won’t work out. I’m not married or anything, but I do have self worth. My life will not revolve around a man, inshaAllah, but I do know that I will try my best to love and care for him. You can’t walk into a relationship thinking that you’re going to be totally independent. Relationships require dependency and openness to vulnerability to a certain degree. It just doesn’t work out when you have hoors on your mind 24/7–it interrupts your marital life and I don’t think the wife nor husband will be too pleased. THe best thing to do is to realize that each person is different. Sure, men and women are anatomically different, though they are more similar than different, but there are greater divisions among men and women. No two men are alike just as no two women are alike. Once people look around and realize this basic fact, it will become a little easier to overcome this idea of hoor because men and women will both accept that not all men are the same, and not all men view this as an ideal “reward.”
@Saif: Your comment seems very genuine and sincere. Your fiancee is blessed to have a man like you in her life. I pray that you get married inshallah and have a long, happy life together, in this world and Jannah–just the two of you–as you want it. This world is about pain, suffering, worship, sacrifice. Jannah is a peaceful abode, where things are YOUR way to reward YOU for having worshipped your Creator when you could have been busy with worldly matters and putting your deen in the back seat. If you don’t want Jannah to be a certain way, I am sure Allah has no difficulty in making Jannah the way you like it. Each individual will have a different experience of Jannah (inshallah we all get there) just as we all have different experiences in this world. Allah Himself says that He is closer to us than our jugular vein, so don’t you think He knows what you want? I’m sure that hoor are created to “reward” men, and if your idea of a reward is to be with your wife only, inshallah that is what it will be. Thank you for leaving a comment and enlightening everyone with your unique perspective!
November 22nd, 2011 at 2:20 am
@Aisha – You are welcome.
To be honest, I still go through a lot of stress regarding this issue.
I just don’t understand. In the Holy Quran, there are verses that says that we will remember everything from this world after we enter paradise. Then it says, “the children of those of the righteous who followed them in the right path, will be joined with them”.
Now I just don’t understand that, first of all, it says that we will remember everything, and second of all, the children will be joined with their parents, but why wouldn’t Allah join the husband and the wife???!!! If the earthly children are joined, then why won’t the earthly spouses be joined???!!! Infact the children were born cause of the husband and wife. And the priority of the husband and wife for each other comes first before the children! So why would the wife be replaced with some stupid hoor-al-ayns! Ah! I get so mad. It just doesn’t make any sense and it doesn’t seem to be the right thing at all! If hoor-al-ayns are only for friendship in paradise, then that’s okay! But why why the hell will I have to marry those creatures despite I will remember everything in this world. Doesn’t this mean I will also remember my wife? And doesn’t this mean as much as I would love my children to join me, I would also want my wife to join me to be my wife??!!
Ah! the whole thing about the hoor-al-ayns as a “reward” is completely destroying a lot of people’s heart and mind.
November 24th, 2011 at 5:29 am
@Saif,
I’ve learned that the wife will not be “replaced” with hoor-al-ayn, husband and wife will be together in paradise insha’Allah, the only “problem” is that the husband will “also” have some (or a lot of) hoors…
November 24th, 2011 at 6:30 am
@Maryam: I think Saif is aware of that. He says he doesn’t want anyone other than his wife.
November 24th, 2011 at 2:25 pm
Salaam,
This article was posted some time ago, and there are many comments here, but for what it’s worth I have something to add.
I am quite well acquainted with Al-Qur’an and insh’allah I understand it in a wise and sensible way. So often I find people, both Muslim and non, to think of the scripture from a male-perspective because, obviously, words like “O men, and he and him” are used more frequently than “O women, she, and her” are used. With my understanding of consistent political and cultural habits throughout the history of mankind that support a male-perspective for all things, it does not seem unreasonable or insulting by any means (suppanallah) that Al-Qur’an perfectly addresses mankind in this way.
Imagine for instance, if it were stated that “women would have all the lovely virgin men they could want in Jannah.” (I dare say most) Men would feel a million times more uncomfortable with that notion than you do with the present notion (which does not say virgin “women” either, btw). Also, since men here on earth often abuse the act of intimacy, it may not even be appealing to a woman to live in the hereafter surrounded by (earthly) men. Libido, I also must add, has NOTHING to do with it. Every individual has their own feeling about intimacy but women are not by any means less sexually-driven. We are however less LUST-driven, largely because it would inhibit our survival mentality, and motherly mentality. But DO NOT let society’s folly fool you, a man’s chastity is not some loose leaf slip of paper blowing in the wind. We women are chaste and dignified and a man of equal merit to such a woman is equal in his efforts towards abstinence.
(sexual incentives, btw, are too simplified here. A man who understands a woman’s worth doesn’t just think of sexual conquests, but of it’s symbol of status, family, nurturing, security, etc. Therefore any suggestion of a female as a prize to man would no less ensure that he has earned something to in turn be responsible for as ideally, this is how Islam treats man-woman relations. Such responsibilities and duties such as marriage however, don’t really coincide with the concept of Jannah, since there, burdens and duties are removed from everyone’s shoulders. Women’s too.)
And about lust:
I have read the surats concerning said aspects of paradise and I for one do not envision some sort of wild party going on. Jannah is a place close to Allah swt, a place of purity and illumination, and pleasures beyond anything we may ever experience in this world. Therefore, don’t think you know what exactly to expect there, we are all truly naive in these matters.
I will conclude with this. I, as a believer in Allah swt, live believing in my rights. I have the right to understanding of my iman, I have a right to an equitable and respectful relationship with my husband, insh’allah, and with hopes that I may be admitted into Allah’s mercy on the day of judgment, and receive my book in my right hand, I will be granted the right to all the pleasures of Jannah and I will not be wronged in the least. Allah has made it so, and that’s the way it is.
I hope that this can ease some people’s concerns about hoor-al-ayn.
Salaam.
November 28th, 2011 at 12:09 am
I’ve read somewhere that Hazrat Ali will only have Fatima (ra) as his only wife in paradise.
Have you ppl read it, too? If you have, can you tell me where this statement is from? I mean is it from the Holy Quran? Or is it from hadeeths?
November 28th, 2011 at 4:07 pm
Brother Saif–never read it nor do I think that is true as Hazrat Ali married another woman I think as soon as a week after the death of Fatima r.a.
November 28th, 2011 at 5:22 pm
It is well known that Hadrat Ali ibn Abi Taalib (r.a.) married Hadrat Fatima bint Mohamed Rasool Allah (r.a.) and had two sons from this marriage; Imam Hassan ibn Ali (r.a.) and Imam Hussain ibn Ali (r.a.). After the death of Hadrat Fatema bint Mohamed Rasool Allah (r.a.), Hadrat Ali (r.a.) married several times and had in excess of 20 children, including 11 daughters. And in accordance of Islamic law, he had no more than four wives at any one time. At the time of his death, it is recorded that he had four wives and nineteen slave girls.
December 4th, 2011 at 3:09 pm
This is the first I’ve heard about the Hoor Al Ayn and being unmarried and still in my teens I don’t really think there’s a lot I can say about this. I just think it’s sad to be honest… I’d have thought warnings about the punishments in hell would be enough to make anyone stop and think before comitting a sin, but it seems like men have to be bribed with these “hoors” to be good. Allah knows best, I guess! But to the guys who are only doing good deeds just so they get some after they die, you won’t get very far in Allah’s eyes if you don’t have the right intentions. I’m just saying. Girls, there’s no point getting mad over this. The Hoors can’t help what they were created for. If it matters to you that much, marry a good man who does have the RIGHT intentions (so you’ll just have to look a little harder, but the right one will come eventually inshaAllah). Besides, I’m sure if he doesn’t want Hoor al ayn, they won’t be forced upon him… I mean, come on it’s Paradise! A lifetime and more of things you DO want, not what you don’t want. No big deal. Lol
December 4th, 2011 at 7:32 pm
ok, that was an innappropriate comment. First of all, who says guys have to be bribed with hoor al ayn. Most guys, who I know don’t discuss hoors or don’t even have hoors in their mind when they do good deeds. Making sweeping generalizations about men, what they want and how they have to be bribed by hoor al ayn is, I’m afraid a tad immature.
Also saying “marry a good man who does have the RIGHT intentions” may again not be something completely appropriate to say. What if some sahaba or a very pious man’s cardinal motivation for getting into heaven – apart from the fear of hell fire and the niyyah to do good for Allah’s sake was hoor al ayn? Would that mean that that mans intention is wrong? Or he isn’t good? This is clearly not the case considering hoors have been used to motivate men to get into heaven. Sure, the idea of having hoors may not motivate all men, but the fact that Allah used it to motivate even a certain portion of the male sex shows there is nothing wrong with doing good hoping for this reward from Allah subhana wa ta aala.
I admit – that despite being a man, I’ve struggled with this issue in some ways as well. I have had different sort of waswaas from shaitan turning me away from hoors, but we should be careful about what we utter.
Allah knows best.
December 5th, 2011 at 1:01 am
@Randomguy: Also you should be careful. You don’t have to attack a sister like that because she has a different opinion from yours.
December 5th, 2011 at 1:58 am
@Maryam: I didn’t intend to attack her at all. However, my post may have come across as being a little harsh, since its impossible to assume inflectional variations from a post. Something that can be said in a very soft tone may be read in a very harsh manner on the internet. I prolly should have used emoticons – something I admit, I’m not used to doing.
December 5th, 2011 at 8:51 am
Sorry, I didn’t mean to offend anyone! :S I did say that was the first I’d heard of Hoor Al Ayn, so I thought I’d leave a comment based on my perspective of what I’d found out. Maybe I should’ve done some more research before I said anything. My bad…
December 5th, 2011 at 9:27 am
@Siddika nahh… i doubt you’ve offended anyone.
December 17th, 2011 at 2:07 am
As Salaam Alaykum Aisha,
I read your article and yes, it was also distrubing me a lot when I found out. Alhamdulillah, I have a fiance now who loves with all his heart. I was very bothered by this issue and still am some times. It used to bother him that it bothers me because he never thought about it. All he wants in this life and the next is me and nothing more. When you come across such hadith taht bother you.. dont read them.. go straight to the Quran first and read it.. and you will understand that many of the “authentic” hadith are closely related to the Quran. The Quran mentions that the old women of this life will be recreated anew in the hearafter. And in anohter sura it is mentioned that He will make them (anew) creation – virgins-defiled. Now it seems to me that these are referring to the same creation, which is women of this world. Moreover, the term “hoor al ayn” is plural of female and male. hoor + hawar. So if we are bothered about hoor, should males be bothered about hawar? So, basically. Houri or hoor are the recreated righteous human and jinn or paradise who will be rewarded with mates amongst themselves. And If you and your spouse have been righteous your entire life and strived to help each other become more pious, then you will enter Jannah together InshaAllah after being recreated. Now this is in accordance with not only the Quran but also the “authentic” hadith. And we should not rely too much on hadith until we konw for sure that it is sahih. People can make up a lot of things. As for the 72 virgins hadith, it is considered very very weak and unreliable. This is what we should be beleiving and we should have complete Faith in Allah, He is giving us the best in this world if we are good, dont u think He will give us the best in the herafter too. If He thinks that your husband is the best for you in this life, don’t you think He will do the same in the hereafter? Allah is Just and He will never make women feel inferior or opressed. Women and Men will enjoy Jannah equally, with each other. Allah knows what is in our hearts. He is closer to us than our Jugular Vein. He knows everything, what you want, what you’re afraid of, what you love. Then why will He not give you what you desire if you go to Jannah. It doesnt make sense to me that Allah will bend the desires of women of having her husband to herself, (which is the natural desire of every straightforward loving woman) just so that a Man can satisfy his desires of having more wives in the hereafter. No, Allah is just.
Now just for discussion sake.. If suppose, there are hooris.. then first of all there arent just female hooris, there are males as well because Hoori in original meaning has no gender. It is both male and female. Again, all the attributes of Jannah that we read in the Quran and the Hadith are facts about Jannah. And supposing that there are houris and more wives etc etc in paradise, One has to know that Everybody will Have a choice, a free will.. If you and your husband have lived with love and affection in this life and both have remained loyal to each other and to Allah in this life, then he will ask for you and you for him. Trust him, if he loves you. End point: You will be happy in Jannah.. To be happy, your desires need to be fulfilled, watever they may be.. And Allah will do the needful.. Have Faith… Trust Him..
JazakAllah
January 5th, 2012 at 2:21 pm
Qur’an
The houri are mentioned in several places in the Qur’an, although in plural no specifics are given as to the number of houries available. Likewise it does not appear from the Qur’an that only girls should be available; both sexes are mentioned (although their descriptive qualities are feminine, as alluded to, by the Hadiths). They are made available to all Muslims, not just martyrs.
“Thus shall it be. And We shall pair(zawajnahoom: pair them, marry them). Note zawj (lit., “a pair” or – according to the context – “one of a pair”) applies to either of the two sexes,a man to a woman and a woman to a man, as does the transitive verb zawaja, “he paired” or “joined”, i.e., one person with another)[28]them with companions pure, most beautiful of eye.”[Chapter (Surah) Ad-Dukhan (The Smoke)(44):54][29]
Hadith
The Islamic traditions (hadith) also mention the houris. Hadiths’ are divided into several types. Among them, there are groups that have been poorly documented and therefore, are not valid as a reference.
[edit] Al-Bukhari
Muhammad al-Bukhari (810 – 870) was a famous Sunni Islamic scholar most known for authoring the most authentic hadith collection named Sahih Bukhari
“[E]veryone will have two wives ([in a version of this hadith:[38] waa li kul-li wa ahidin minhoom zawjataani = and to every single (everyone) among them zawjataani. The expression kulli wa hadin-each one (everyone) includes both males and females. Note: the feminine ending -at(un) (feminine ta-marbuta, -ah in modern Arabic language) is also added to distinguish a person in an exemplary manner as in allamun = scholar, allamatun (-ah) = distinguished scholar [not "female scholar"], or as in rawin = narrator, rawiyatun(-ah) = narrator(of poems) [not "female narrator"]. These forms ending in -at(un) (modern -ah), as they designate the individual, are treated as masculines.][39][zawjatan: dual connotation (Classical Arabic Idiom - which can be used to refer to two different things calling them by the same name: two paired persons or things can be expressed by the dual of one of them (e.g. abawaani [dual of aba (father)] = parents (father and mother, not “two fathers”; qamarani [dual of qamar (moon)] = sun and moon (not “two moons”);[40] usage in “Qur’an in Surah Al-Furqan(25):53″ bahrayn [dual of bahr (sea)] = sea “salty and bitter” and river “sweet and thirst-allaying” (not “two seas”); sometimes the word with the female gender is chosen to make the dual form, such as in the expression “the two Marwas”, referring to the two hills of As-Safa and Al-Marwa (not “two hills, each called Al-Marwa”) in Mecca;[41]) ( (i.e. Husband – zawj and wife -zawjah can be referred as zawjatan in the dual form)][42] from the houris, (who will be so beautiful, pure and transparent that) the marrow of the bones of their legs will be seen through the bones and the flesh.” (Sahih Bukhari, Book 54 “The Beginning of Creation”, Hadith 476)[43])
“They will not urinate, relieve nature, spit, or have any nasal secretions. Their combs will be of gold, and their sweat will smell like musk. The aloes-wood will be used in their censers. Their wives will be houris. All of them will look alike and will resemble their father Adam (in stature), sixty cubits tall.”‘[19][20]
January 5th, 2012 at 3:13 pm
Salam Khushboo,
Maybe I am confused by all these hadiths. Are you saying that hoor don’t have a specified gender? Jazakillah khair
January 28th, 2012 at 6:21 am
Dear Sisters, Salaam!
Like you, when I first heard about the Hoor, I was so upset I nearly cried. I felt my imaan had weakened. But everytime I felt like this about Islam, I would always try to seek knowledge. Allah gave the Quran to us all, not just a few scholars. We all have the ability to make our own opinions.
The Hoor- why would be be jealous of something that is not as good as us?! The Hoor would be jealous of us and our higher status, but no jealousy exists in Jannah. Let me explain. This is my opinion of the hoor, Allah forgive me if I am wrong. I dnt feel like I need to justify my opinion to any of u, I just hope you sisters find peace.
Reconcile these points:
It is clear there will be more men in paradise then women.
the women of this dunya that will reach jannah will be more beautiful and like ‘queens’ in comparison to the Hoors.
A large part of being a good muslim woman is pleasing your husband.
Ok men and women are made for eachother, Prophet Adam and Eve lived in Jannah together. The believing, righteous women and their husbands will reside in jannah together (happily ever after). The men and women without spouses (never married/ spouse in hellfire) will be paired. No woman will be left unpaired.
That leaves some men left over… should these men achieve paradise and have themselves adjusted to forget that desire?! That is not fair. So instead there is hoor, a lesser version of the Queen woman of the dunya created for him. Like imitations of women, but without our deeds on our faces in the form of Allahs noor subhanAllah what could be more pleasing. (as only the righteous women will get paradise)The hoor will please the men they are given. Everyone is happy.
Would u be jealous of this creature? No. The Hoor are not there to threaten us. Jannah is not a place of immodesty. It is a beautiful place of harmony and sanctity. Women who believe, stop fretting over these creatures. Get to Jannah for your equal rewards.
Allah is never unfair! he is the most just! If you believe that much then do not pay attention to Hadith which are not fully able to be backed up. And scholars who may not be interpreting in the best way. Read the Quran, full of the love and wisdom of Allah! It is so great!
This also explains why not all men want the Hoor, the best of the believing men will be given the queens of paradise as the women will get the most righteous of men. Allah recognises that both men and women have desires. SubhanAllah! In heaven they will all be fulfilled. Desires such as ‘dirty sex, intoxication’ will not exist in this purest of places.
Please sisters do not be led to believe that in Islam women are of a lower status. Man and woman were created equal. We have different traits, (men generally are stronger etc) but Allah loves us all equally. Islam is so beautiful it makes me want to cry :’) <3 but I dont like how it is exploited by people for their own purposes.
This post is not to cause an argument, I just hope it gives u peace. Like how I feel. May Allah give me a husband (the other half of my deen) with whom I can enter Jannah and stay for all eternity. All our negative feelings, sins, impurities gone.
Ameen sisters. remember Allah is all knowing. No human is. Use your brains and keep your faith strong. Islam is for us all man or woman!
Rid yourself of any jealousy! Once you attain Jannah inshAllah you will be so happy that the feeling doesnt even exist in this dunya. But for that we need to let go of these feelings and believe in the justice of the ONE TRUE GOD!
January 28th, 2012 at 12:49 pm
Wa alaikum as salaam Knowledge Seeker,
I understand and agree with you, but hadiths don’t say this is only for men who don’t have a wife in this dunya. If it was for that reason, it would’ve also been specified for the women who don’t have husbands.
January 28th, 2012 at 3:37 pm
Salaam,
After I left my last comment on here I hadn’t really given this topic anymore thought. I guess I was just kind of shocked before but I got over it. Now, I don’t mean to sound rude and I do apologise if it comes across that way but I think you all should too. If they were created by Allah for whatever purpose then there isn’t anything anyone (besides Allah) can do about it. Just make the most of your lives while you can and whatever happens in Jannah will happen, it’s out of our hands. Please don’t let it get to you, we’re better than that.
I wish you all the best.
January 29th, 2012 at 1:22 pm
I agree with sister sidikka, I suppose we have to simple leave some things up to Allah. Its obviously hard to do, and I’m in no position to comment about this particular issue since I’m a guy, but one thing that did help me with any lingering questions I had about Islam was to not brood over them.
January 29th, 2012 at 1:28 pm
Good point, Randomguy! This applies for other issues as well. Don’t brood over things you can’t figure out (like Islamic questions which many scholars will explain differently), and don’t worry about other things in this life which you cannot control.
I just see which explanation fmakes the most sense. If none of them do, leave it to Allah and know that nothing is forced in jannah. There are rules set by the Quran but that is for THIS world to ensure that our lives pass by with integrity and harmony, not chaos. Jannah isn’t the same world so we don’t need all these
January 29th, 2012 at 1:40 pm
Rules since we will all be in the presence of Allah inshallah, not in this world where hatred, greed, murder, and power struggles exist. That world is different. For instance, in this world, I start as a baby and grow into a toddler, then an adolescent, then an adult. Finally, I become a parent (if Allah wills it), and then my child goes through the stages I went through. My point is, I am the older one. I guide my child and finally I age so that my child is the one who plays the parental role. In jannah, everyone is the same age. My mom, dad, and I will all be the same age inshallah. This is lengthier than it should have been, but basically all I am saying is that this dunya and jannah differ drastically. There are rules here that we MUST obey for the benefit of humankind, but Jnnah is a reward. You get what you want, no exceptions!
Personally, I want to see Allah s.w.t.’s Face. It would be amazing if I could speak to my Creator. That is my first wish. My second wish is to be able to see my family members, and I definitely want my pet canaries!! It would be cool if I could talk to my pets! It sounds stupid, but I do wonder how they feel in a cage all the time. My last wish is for Allah to create for me a companion that I can do everything with! Walk through gardens, fly on clouds! Hey, we can have what we want! How awesome is that?
January 29th, 2012 at 2:11 pm
^^ yeah! I too focus on those aspects about jannah that encourage me to do good things, like meeting family, friends, having good company and surroundings, building gadgets (i’m an engineer), exploring etc.
In jannah I’d love to have loads of pets as well like siberian huskies (no najas saliva there)! and of course seeing Allah subhana wa ta aalas face will be the ultimate blessing!
January 29th, 2012 at 3:59 pm
“you get what you want. No exceptions”
Correct me I’m wrong, but I don’t think that’s entirely true. As I’ve said before, I always wanted to be a FBI agent/ homicide detective or something of the like. I highly doubt Allah is going to recreate a murder scene in Jannah or the murderer and everything that comes with. Or if like if someone always wanted to be a doctor, how are they gonna do that? There aren’t any sick people in Jannah. And what if a woman wants more than one husband?
January 29th, 2012 at 4:55 pm
Good point, Amira. Wanting to be a doctor is a desire of this dunya. Why do people want to be doctors? Some for the status, some for the money, and some merely for the satisfaction of helping others. These things aren’t needed in jannah. Same with detective. However, Allah hasn’t clearly answered in regard to these things in the Quran, so it isn’t black and white or cut and dry a “NO.” if Allah can create the world and all that is in it, without any fatigue, do you think it would be difficult for Him to make you your own “dummy” if you will, type of people for you to be a doctor to? Anything is possible with Allah as long as you believe in Him, and if you truly want something, it will happen. I have prayed to Allah for things in this dunya, and He has granted them to me. Sometimes he closes one door but he opens another one so don’t lose hope. I know u understand that some Of ur examples apply to this dunya but get a load of this. I read a hadith about a man who will go to jamnah and will be asked if he wants anything, and he says he wants o cultivate land. This man was a farmer in this world. Now, if u think of it, what need is there dor that in jannah when all the fruits and food arw readily available while people relax? Well, it was something he liked in this world and Allah didnt question it or say it was a stupid wish. He granted him his wish and all the wheat (or whatever he planted, I don’t remember) grew to enormous heights. Allah asked him if he was happy and he said he was. Therefore, I believe that while jannah is different and thse things arent needed there, we still will be the same person deep down and will get what we want inshallah. I hope that helps. Sorry for the informal writing and grammatical errors, my fingers are swollen for some reason. Lol.